Trauma, A Father’s Love and Hope | The Peter and Belle Anthony Story

1 00:00:00,330 --> 00:00:01,110 Absolutely. 2 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:02,070 Absolutely. 3 00:00:02,070 --> 00:00:04,560 I think definitely limiting it. 4 00:00:04,565 --> 00:00:06,930 You don't have to completely remove yourself because that 5 00:00:06,930 --> 00:00:08,640 creates a whole other problem. 6 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,960 You don't wanna be disconnected from what is now the central form of communication. 7 00:00:13,170 --> 00:00:13,290 Mm-hmm. 8 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:18,150 . But you definitely need to be strict with yourself about it and when you 9 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:20,410 see, be purposeful about what you put. 10 00:00:21,135 --> 00:00:24,855 On your own pages, things like saying not interested to things 11 00:00:24,855 --> 00:00:26,115 that wouldn't be beneficial to you. 12 00:00:26,115 --> 00:00:30,165 Like for girls it's things like photos of supermodels and that kind of stuff, 13 00:00:30,165 --> 00:00:35,265 giving you very yucky feelings about yourself or for guys, I'm sure there's a 14 00:00:35,265 --> 00:00:38,355 similar equivalent, or it's just things like not going on your phone straight 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,345 away when you wake up so that your first thing you see is all these other, the 16 00:00:42,345 --> 00:00:43,905 highlight reels of other people's lives. 17 00:00:43,905 --> 00:00:46,695 When you're looking at your own bloopers, it's like not a very. 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,800 Way to compare yourself. 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,400 So I think it's good to have, it's really good to stay in contact with your friends 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,029 and stay in the limits fund to post. 21 00:00:56,029 --> 00:00:58,500 It's fun to do all that stuff, but you definitely need to have 22 00:00:58,500 --> 00:00:59,669 rules around it for your own 23 00:00:59,675 --> 00:01:00,209 wellbeing. 24 00:01:00,870 --> 00:01:02,429 Here's the million dollar question. 25 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:06,449 How do men like us reach our full potential and grow into the men 26 00:01:06,449 --> 00:01:09,830 we dream of being while taking care of our responsibilities, 27 00:01:10,140 --> 00:01:14,850 working, being good husbands, fathers, and still take care of our. 28 00:01:16,175 --> 00:01:19,635 If that the question in this podcast, we'll help you with those answers. 29 00:01:19,635 --> 00:01:22,815 My name is Brent and welcome to the Fallible Man Podcast. 30 00:01:22,875 --> 00:01:24,825 Welcome to the Fallible Man Podcast, your home for all 31 00:01:24,825 --> 00:01:26,115 things, man, husband, and father. 32 00:01:26,355 --> 00:01:27,675 Big shout out to Fallible Nation. 33 00:01:27,675 --> 00:01:29,055 Welcome to our first time listeners. 34 00:01:29,055 --> 00:01:33,025 My name is Brent, and today I have a very special show for you, Peter and Belle. 35 00:01:33,105 --> 00:01:35,265 Anthony are bringing you a Christmas present. 36 00:01:35,565 --> 00:01:38,055 Just a little bit ear early to this year. 37 00:01:38,415 --> 00:01:40,035 Peter Belle, welcome to the show. 38 00:01:40,995 --> 00:01:42,145 Hi, . Hi. 39 00:01:42,165 --> 00:01:42,785 Thanks, Brent. 40 00:01:44,039 --> 00:01:47,009 Now you guys are joining me from the other side of the world for me. 41 00:01:47,009 --> 00:01:51,929 You guys are in beautiful Australia this morning, or in your case this morning, 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,160 . We're in 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,399 the future. 44 00:01:54,839 --> 00:01:55,679 We're in the future. 45 00:01:55,708 --> 00:01:57,212 We're talking to you from Sydney, Australia. 46 00:01:57,332 --> 00:01:58,322 From Sydney, Australia. 47 00:01:58,322 --> 00:01:58,592 Okay. 48 00:01:58,982 --> 00:02:02,969 I like to ask my guests because I've gotten to work with a few of your fellow, 49 00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:08,219 fellow Australians, and so I seem to be mostly along that coastline with you guys. 50 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:08,839 Mm-hmm. 51 00:02:10,274 --> 00:02:13,520 . Yeah, we're on the, if your listeners know Sydney, we're on the northern 52 00:02:13,525 --> 00:02:16,560 beaches of Sydney, so you can imagine Sydney Harbor and the Harbor Bridge. 53 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:19,968 And if you go north, there's a series around nine beautiful beaches. 54 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:21,738 We're on the coast, so that's where we 55 00:02:21,738 --> 00:02:21,978 live. 56 00:02:22,128 --> 00:02:23,328 Beautiful, beautiful. 57 00:02:24,078 --> 00:02:26,881 That the sun sign, the Sunshine Coast is a little farther north, right? 58 00:02:27,361 --> 00:02:28,291 Yeah, it is. 59 00:02:28,291 --> 00:02:28,491 Yeah. 60 00:02:28,491 --> 00:02:28,691 Yeah. 61 00:02:28,691 --> 00:02:29,331 Just above us. 62 00:02:29,331 --> 00:02:30,251 Yeah, just above us. 63 00:02:30,251 --> 00:02:33,405 One, one of our good friends Aaron Young is up on the Sunshine Coast. 64 00:02:33,855 --> 00:02:35,685 Aaron and I have collaborated a couple times. 65 00:02:35,771 --> 00:02:37,461 So yeah it's been fun. 66 00:02:37,461 --> 00:02:39,923 I always love talking to our brothers and sisters in Australia 67 00:02:39,953 --> 00:02:41,393 because this is just cool. 68 00:02:41,393 --> 00:02:44,663 The fact that we can connect from across the world is just awesome. 69 00:02:45,743 --> 00:02:46,553 Yeah, it is. 70 00:02:46,553 --> 00:02:47,393 It is very cool. 71 00:02:47,453 --> 00:02:48,203 It's very cool. 72 00:02:48,203 --> 00:02:51,740 It's I think that's one of the beauties of technology to connect with people anywhere 73 00:02:51,745 --> 00:02:55,055 in the world and see them and talk to them as if they're in the robot in front of you 74 00:02:55,805 --> 00:02:56,165 now. 75 00:02:56,525 --> 00:02:59,795 Yeah, I don't do really big intros because I could read accolades. 76 00:03:00,845 --> 00:03:02,465 But that doesn't really help anybody. 77 00:03:02,465 --> 00:03:03,828 So this is the hard question. 78 00:03:03,828 --> 00:03:05,658 You guys can get through this when you're set, right? 79 00:03:06,048 --> 00:03:06,228 Yes. 80 00:03:07,668 --> 00:03:09,558 . Who is Peter Anthony. 81 00:03:09,738 --> 00:03:12,228 And then who is Belle Anthony in your own words. 82 00:03:13,038 --> 00:03:13,638 Okay. 83 00:03:13,638 --> 00:03:18,587 Well, I'm a a father of two children Blake and Belle obviously sitting alongside me. 84 00:03:18,652 --> 00:03:22,559 I run a consulting business and I've spent the the last few years 85 00:03:22,589 --> 00:03:24,573 really focusing on being Belle's dad. 86 00:03:24,723 --> 00:03:25,995 That's that's me and I love it. 87 00:03:26,088 --> 00:03:26,813 I love being a father. 88 00:03:26,813 --> 00:03:28,493 I can't think of anything I enjoy more in the world. 89 00:03:29,603 --> 00:03:30,538 What about you, Belle Belle? 90 00:03:30,608 --> 00:03:31,108 I'm Belle. 91 00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:32,798 I don't run a consulting firm. 92 00:03:33,508 --> 00:03:35,948 I, um, I'm at University for criminology. 93 00:03:35,948 --> 00:03:41,348 I have quite a passion for this general wellbeing side of things, having 94 00:03:41,348 --> 00:03:44,408 experienced the harsher elements myself. 95 00:03:45,098 --> 00:03:47,528 Yeah, I'm just, I meet, I wanna be a lawyer. 96 00:03:47,558 --> 00:03:49,358 I adore my friends. 97 00:03:49,508 --> 00:03:50,348 He's pretty cool. 98 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:51,768 And . Yeah. 99 00:03:53,348 --> 00:03:57,908 All right, Belle, your university, you said, and you're studying for criminology? 100 00:03:58,688 --> 00:03:58,928 Yeah, 101 00:03:58,988 --> 00:04:01,478 ideally transferring into law next semester. 102 00:04:01,628 --> 00:04:02,168 Okay. 103 00:04:02,348 --> 00:04:02,978 Wow. 104 00:04:03,858 --> 00:04:04,658 Ambitious. 105 00:04:04,868 --> 00:04:06,068 That's a, that's awesome. 106 00:04:06,068 --> 00:04:07,718 We could use some good lawyers in the world, 107 00:04:08,718 --> 00:04:09,468 Watch this face. 108 00:04:09,468 --> 00:04:11,868 If she becomes a lawyer, Brent, we better better watch out 109 00:04:13,058 --> 00:04:14,598 . I'll pay this back if it does anything. 110 00:04:14,598 --> 00:04:14,718 I 111 00:04:14,718 --> 00:04:15,198 got you. 112 00:04:15,558 --> 00:04:18,118 Well, I was gonna say, you know, I'm just, I'm just counting on her, Belleing 113 00:04:18,138 --> 00:04:19,518 me out when she gets her law degree. 114 00:04:20,278 --> 00:04:20,989 Oh yeah, yeah. 115 00:04:21,138 --> 00:04:21,588 Just call me 116 00:04:21,593 --> 00:04:21,828 up. 117 00:04:23,628 --> 00:04:27,308 I know you're in Australia, but, but 118 00:04:27,558 --> 00:04:28,128 I'll figure it out. 119 00:04:28,308 --> 00:04:28,788 That's alright. 120 00:04:28,788 --> 00:04:29,948 It's a completely different system, 121 00:04:29,948 --> 00:04:30,768 but don't worry about it. 122 00:04:30,888 --> 00:04:33,048 Is there a particular branch of law you wanna go into? 123 00:04:34,188 --> 00:04:36,908 Um, well I'm primarily interested. 124 00:04:37,638 --> 00:04:41,268 Well, it can't just be me, but trying to make a difference in changing the system 125 00:04:41,268 --> 00:04:45,258 from the inside out because a lot of people are quite heavily advantaged just 126 00:04:45,258 --> 00:04:47,598 from step one within the legal system. 127 00:04:47,598 --> 00:04:52,458 So whether that be prosecuting against people that violate human rights or 128 00:04:52,488 --> 00:04:56,358 defending the people who have had those rights violated, I'm not entirely sure. 129 00:04:56,388 --> 00:05:01,188 But I definitely wanna be doing something in the like progressive helping 130 00:05:01,188 --> 00:05:03,678 people sector of all of it, ideally. 131 00:05:04,518 --> 00:05:05,148 Okay, sir. 132 00:05:05,508 --> 00:05:08,058 No business law or tax law or anything like that. 133 00:05:08,058 --> 00:05:08,688 You wanna go straight? 134 00:05:08,693 --> 00:05:09,658 I'd get so bored. 135 00:05:10,098 --> 00:05:11,538 . Yeah, I would get so bored. 136 00:05:12,348 --> 00:05:14,178 . She hears too much about business from me, Brent. 137 00:05:14,178 --> 00:05:16,038 So all I do is bore her outta it. 138 00:05:16,548 --> 00:05:17,178 Fair enough, 139 00:05:17,178 --> 00:05:17,778 fair enough. 140 00:05:18,708 --> 00:05:20,178 Now Belle, let me ask you a question. 141 00:05:20,328 --> 00:05:25,008 In your opinion, how important is a father and a young woman's life? 142 00:05:26,538 --> 00:05:27,768 I think it's pretty paramount. 143 00:05:27,768 --> 00:05:32,508 It definitely gives you a model of what a man should be or how you should be. 144 00:05:33,438 --> 00:05:35,508 By men in general. 145 00:05:35,508 --> 00:05:39,888 It's your first relationship that shows you that level of, 146 00:05:40,758 --> 00:05:41,868 I don't know, interaction. 147 00:05:41,868 --> 00:05:45,018 And I think it makes a very, very big difference to people 148 00:05:45,018 --> 00:05:46,278 that have a difficult one. 149 00:05:46,578 --> 00:05:49,218 Developing relationships later in their life or just developing their 150 00:05:49,223 --> 00:05:52,758 own like sense of self-image and worth. 151 00:05:53,118 --> 00:05:54,438 It can really influence. 152 00:05:54,978 --> 00:05:55,488 All of that. 153 00:05:55,488 --> 00:05:59,628 So I'd say it's critical the relationship you have with your dad, not the 154 00:05:59,628 --> 00:06:04,158 people that don't have, like you can do absolutely dandy without one, but 155 00:06:04,158 --> 00:06:08,328 I think it does definitely benefit those who have a good relationship 156 00:06:08,328 --> 00:06:09,528 with their dads or parents in 157 00:06:09,533 --> 00:06:09,918 general. 158 00:06:10,248 --> 00:06:10,608 Okay. 159 00:06:11,238 --> 00:06:12,368 I appreciate you sharing that cuz. 160 00:06:13,533 --> 00:06:16,695 Right now, I, I don't know how it is there, but in the States there's a lot of 161 00:06:16,700 --> 00:06:21,093 pushback right now about, I was like, uh, you don't really need a dad in the house. 162 00:06:21,393 --> 00:06:24,993 Like fatherless homes are at an all time high, I think. 163 00:06:25,233 --> 00:06:29,413 I think that's pretty across the board, but I can only say here 164 00:06:30,413 --> 00:06:30,843 pretty big. 165 00:06:30,863 --> 00:06:31,043 Right? 166 00:06:31,043 --> 00:06:32,003 Now's really true. 167 00:06:32,868 --> 00:06:32,878 Okay. 168 00:06:34,208 --> 00:06:38,648 I think definitely single mothers are superwoman and you can do very well 169 00:06:38,648 --> 00:06:42,008 in a house without that figure there, but I think it definitely benefits 170 00:06:42,368 --> 00:06:46,028 you a lot more to have that father around to show you things, even if 171 00:06:46,028 --> 00:06:50,688 it's just like, I mean, he shows me how to like hammer things or like 172 00:06:51,638 --> 00:06:54,288 I know how to fix the pool cleaner's. 173 00:06:54,288 --> 00:06:54,488 Really? 174 00:06:55,958 --> 00:06:57,038 Oh, those really important things. 175 00:06:57,128 --> 00:06:57,408 Yeah. 176 00:06:57,408 --> 00:06:57,409 Yeah. 177 00:06:57,428 --> 00:06:58,238 Like using a hammer. 178 00:06:58,388 --> 00:06:58,658 Yeah. 179 00:06:58,928 --> 00:06:59,048 Yeah. 180 00:06:59,053 --> 00:07:00,968 I'm very, I'm very technically minded, Brent. 181 00:07:01,058 --> 00:07:02,828 I can, I can use a hammer and hit a nail. 182 00:07:03,308 --> 00:07:04,328 It's, well, 183 00:07:04,328 --> 00:07:08,568 hey, if I ever wanted to go into golf , I've got it here. 184 00:07:09,568 --> 00:07:13,588 Now just outta curiosity, if you could have a conversation with anybody living 185 00:07:13,593 --> 00:07:15,148 or dead, who would it be and why? 186 00:07:17,718 --> 00:07:18,068 Oh, 187 00:07:19,388 --> 00:07:20,428 probably Ruth Bada Ginsburg. 188 00:07:21,328 --> 00:07:26,638 She, I find her incredibly fascinating and just an amazing woman. 189 00:07:26,878 --> 00:07:30,298 She did so much for the Women's rights movement and she was 190 00:07:30,298 --> 00:07:31,858 just so incredibly motivated. 191 00:07:32,203 --> 00:07:34,833 Regardless of everything that was thrown at her. 192 00:07:35,083 --> 00:07:38,503 And even when her husband fell ill, she did her Harvard law 193 00:07:38,503 --> 00:07:40,363 degree and his at the same time. 194 00:07:40,423 --> 00:07:40,513 Mm-hmm. 195 00:07:40,758 --> 00:07:43,093 ended up on the Supreme Court, did a lot for women. 196 00:07:43,093 --> 00:07:44,983 I just, I look up to her a lot. 197 00:07:44,983 --> 00:07:46,063 I probably wanna meet her. 198 00:07:46,393 --> 00:07:46,693 Okay. 199 00:07:47,113 --> 00:07:48,823 Just like fist bump her or something. 200 00:07:48,823 --> 00:07:49,343 I dunno. 201 00:07:50,503 --> 00:07:52,183 Peter, what about you, you dad? 202 00:07:52,843 --> 00:07:56,743 Uh, I think if anyone living on dead, I, I think it, um, oh, I'm a, I'm a 203 00:07:56,748 --> 00:08:01,393 Christian Brent, so I, I'd like to meet Jesus, um, in and, and ask him. 204 00:08:02,353 --> 00:08:05,803 What really happened, like how, uh, what really happened and what he really meant 205 00:08:05,863 --> 00:08:08,473 and, uh, what message he would have for us 206 00:08:08,473 --> 00:08:08,803 today. 207 00:08:09,673 --> 00:08:13,213 That is actually like the number one person I get on this question right here. 208 00:08:13,723 --> 00:08:14,473 I I've had it. 209 00:08:14,653 --> 00:08:14,803 Really? 210 00:08:14,803 --> 00:08:14,863 Yeah. 211 00:08:15,093 --> 00:08:18,133 I've recorded several interviews recently and, and yeah. 212 00:08:18,163 --> 00:08:20,323 Jesus is like the number one answer. 213 00:08:21,223 --> 00:08:22,393 It's like, huh, okay. 214 00:08:22,993 --> 00:08:23,623 That's cool. 215 00:08:23,653 --> 00:08:23,953 I think it'd 216 00:08:23,953 --> 00:08:27,763 be, yeah, it'd be cool to see of what's, what he really thinks 217 00:08:27,763 --> 00:08:29,323 and how accurate the bible. 218 00:08:30,148 --> 00:08:32,968 Representing him to the gospels that I'd be keen to know that. 219 00:08:33,298 --> 00:08:33,388 All 220 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:33,628 right. 221 00:08:34,198 --> 00:08:38,188 I always like to ask cuz it, it helps people understand, you know, who they're 222 00:08:38,188 --> 00:08:44,338 talking to and, uh, just a little bit about the way you think and right. 223 00:08:44,338 --> 00:08:47,068 It helps you paint picture of people when you start asking these questions. 224 00:08:47,518 --> 00:08:48,838 Here's, here's the show stopper. 225 00:08:49,108 --> 00:08:50,098 What's your favorite ice cream? 226 00:08:52,558 --> 00:08:53,458 See that one's even hot 227 00:08:55,603 --> 00:08:59,443 Either mint chocolate or hazelnut, I would say to that 228 00:08:59,443 --> 00:09:01,063 very politically charged question. 229 00:09:03,733 --> 00:09:04,543 , what about yours? 230 00:09:05,383 --> 00:09:06,913 Mine might be caramel. 231 00:09:07,243 --> 00:09:08,593 Just good old fashioned caramel. 232 00:09:08,893 --> 00:09:09,553 It's my favorite. 233 00:09:09,793 --> 00:09:10,423 Okay. 234 00:09:10,423 --> 00:09:10,513 Sure. 235 00:09:12,883 --> 00:09:16,423 You guys have some, it's always fun when you talk to people around the 236 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:20,023 world cuz you find out there are different, very different flavors. 237 00:09:20,263 --> 00:09:20,353 Mm-hmm. 238 00:09:20,623 --> 00:09:21,103 around the. 239 00:09:22,228 --> 00:09:27,448 One of the guys I talked to in Sydney, uh, told me about a was like burn fig 240 00:09:27,448 --> 00:09:29,878 in almond or something down there. 241 00:09:31,348 --> 00:09:34,018 We've got very different like confectionary as well. 242 00:09:34,318 --> 00:09:34,438 Yeah. 243 00:09:34,438 --> 00:09:38,098 But things like crunchies and that kind of stuff that you guys don't have, which 244 00:09:38,188 --> 00:09:40,138 is your bad, I feel so sorry for you. 245 00:09:40,438 --> 00:09:40,648 Yeah. 246 00:09:40,708 --> 00:09:47,548 But we've got some very wacky food here, . Like veggie mites, the big one. 247 00:09:47,908 --> 00:09:50,158 You know, I've had Vegemite, so mm-hmm. 248 00:09:50,438 --> 00:09:51,608 I, I, I, what was the wedding? 249 00:09:53,508 --> 00:09:59,098 I wasn't fond of it, but No, but fair that also I, I also have to leave in 250 00:09:59,098 --> 00:10:03,538 the part that, that could have been just direct exposure, how I had it. 251 00:10:03,718 --> 00:10:03,808 Mm-hmm. 252 00:10:04,228 --> 00:10:04,498 Right. 253 00:10:04,498 --> 00:10:06,538 Because that was one of those, one of those strange things where 254 00:10:06,543 --> 00:10:09,148 one of my friends managed to get ahold of some veggie mike. 255 00:10:09,178 --> 00:10:11,248 He's like, dude, I've heard about this. 256 00:10:11,368 --> 00:10:12,268 We gotta try it. 257 00:10:12,388 --> 00:10:14,578 And so like, we're trying it straight outta the little shaker. 258 00:10:15,838 --> 00:10:16,048 Yeah. 259 00:10:16,048 --> 00:10:18,158 No, and it's probably, yeah, you gotta get 260 00:10:18,158 --> 00:10:21,278 total layer photo thin layer of Vegemite. 261 00:10:21,348 --> 00:10:21,838 Yeah. 262 00:10:21,838 --> 00:10:22,158 Yeah. 263 00:10:22,163 --> 00:10:24,928 See, I, I figured it, part of it had to be the experience, right? 264 00:10:24,933 --> 00:10:27,718 How you, how you try things when you try things. 265 00:10:28,258 --> 00:10:28,858 Exactly. 266 00:10:29,128 --> 00:10:33,388 It's like I, uh, I didn't try scotch until I had a friend 267 00:10:33,388 --> 00:10:34,828 who was just a scotch lover. 268 00:10:34,988 --> 00:10:35,598 Mm-hmm. 269 00:10:35,728 --> 00:10:38,908 Because I didn't want to have bad scotch and get the idea wrong idea about it. 270 00:10:40,273 --> 00:10:42,433 Uh, you gotta put things in perspective. 271 00:10:42,643 --> 00:10:44,053 In perspective that matters. 272 00:10:44,263 --> 00:10:44,443 Yeah. 273 00:10:45,973 --> 00:10:47,863 So I guess what we're raised with that too, Brad. 274 00:10:47,863 --> 00:10:51,043 I mean, we're, uh, venite something, one of the first things 275 00:10:51,043 --> 00:10:52,363 that baby tastes in Australia. 276 00:10:52,633 --> 00:10:53,083 Okay. 277 00:10:53,383 --> 00:10:57,123 . So you, you, it's part of your upbringing basically, so Yeah. 278 00:10:57,123 --> 00:10:57,523 Yeah. 279 00:10:57,523 --> 00:10:59,563 Most Australians like mite. 280 00:10:59,593 --> 00:10:59,833 Okay. 281 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:00,683 They're overseas. 282 00:11:00,688 --> 00:11:02,403 It's, it gives you a sense of 283 00:11:02,403 --> 00:11:02,743 being home. 284 00:11:03,373 --> 00:11:06,133 Well, it's a, yeah, there's that emotional con connection, right? 285 00:11:06,253 --> 00:11:06,613 Yeah. 286 00:11:06,618 --> 00:11:09,433 I, I have a deep connection with, uh, banana pudding. 287 00:11:10,483 --> 00:11:12,853 I, I grew up with my mom, my grandmother, my grandmother 288 00:11:12,853 --> 00:11:13,813 lived with us my whole life. 289 00:11:14,173 --> 00:11:18,403 We have banana pudding and like, just smell it at cookie. 290 00:11:18,403 --> 00:11:19,783 And I'm like, yes. 291 00:11:19,783 --> 00:11:20,593 I just start salad. 292 00:11:21,823 --> 00:11:22,383 , right? 293 00:11:22,633 --> 00:11:23,923 Can you cook a good banana 294 00:11:23,923 --> 00:11:24,943 pudding, Bri, I. 295 00:11:25,573 --> 00:11:26,743 I can, you can. 296 00:11:26,803 --> 00:11:27,223 Okay. 297 00:11:27,593 --> 00:11:30,733 I, I actually am, uh, a, a bit of cook. 298 00:11:30,733 --> 00:11:35,563 I, growing up nice in a house with my mom and my grandmother. 299 00:11:36,643 --> 00:11:40,273 My dad actually was a army cook and so I grew up in a 300 00:11:40,278 --> 00:11:41,413 household of people who cooked. 301 00:11:41,418 --> 00:11:46,483 So we all, I, I had an entire kitchen set before I graduated high school. 302 00:11:47,683 --> 00:11:48,103 That's really cool. 303 00:11:48,103 --> 00:11:50,593 Like when I moved out, my mom had to buy some stuff cuz she was using some 304 00:11:50,593 --> 00:11:52,033 of my spatulas and stuff like that. 305 00:11:52,263 --> 00:11:57,718 No . So I'm, I expect that that's one, that's one of those 306 00:11:57,718 --> 00:11:59,308 things I do for stress relief. 307 00:12:00,358 --> 00:12:00,478 Mm-hmm. 308 00:12:00,898 --> 00:12:02,818 So I'll, I'll cook big meals. 309 00:12:03,268 --> 00:12:06,148 My wife used to come home and be like, oh, you had a rough day. 310 00:12:06,148 --> 00:12:07,738 Cuz there'd be like a six quar dinner cooking 311 00:12:08,778 --> 00:12:10,658 like you cooked for an entire family. 312 00:12:10,658 --> 00:12:11,658 Yeah, you were 313 00:12:11,658 --> 00:12:11,858 right. 314 00:12:12,328 --> 00:12:13,888 It, it was a bad day at work today. 315 00:12:13,888 --> 00:12:14,158 Huh. 316 00:12:14,248 --> 00:12:14,698 Okay. 317 00:12:16,498 --> 00:12:20,008 . So yeah, that's, uh, banana pudding was just something man. 318 00:12:20,728 --> 00:12:21,268 We're there. 319 00:12:21,658 --> 00:12:25,438 So, yeah, I, I get the emotional connection for sure now. 320 00:12:25,443 --> 00:12:25,828 Mm-hmm. 321 00:12:26,488 --> 00:12:28,508 , we'll, we'll get a little more serious here, Belle. 322 00:12:28,528 --> 00:12:32,068 You had an experience that impacted your life in a pr pretty traumatic way. 323 00:12:33,088 --> 00:12:33,178 Yeah. 324 00:12:33,208 --> 00:12:39,958 Now we don't have to go too deep to, but let me ask you guys, what was 325 00:12:39,958 --> 00:12:42,568 your relationship be like before that? 326 00:12:44,068 --> 00:12:45,658 Before that I was before that event? 327 00:12:45,658 --> 00:12:45,838 Yeah. 328 00:12:45,838 --> 00:12:48,178 What was y'all's father-daughter relationship like before that? 329 00:12:49,198 --> 00:12:49,408 We 330 00:12:49,413 --> 00:12:52,318 definitely weren't too close for a while. 331 00:12:52,378 --> 00:12:54,958 It kind of, we got quite disconnected just throughout. 332 00:12:55,348 --> 00:12:55,938 I don't know. 333 00:12:56,728 --> 00:13:02,518 Growing up, I mean I definitely, I went to my dad as like a steady man 334 00:13:02,518 --> 00:13:06,058 in the storm in that situation and it definitely like gave us a whole new. 335 00:13:07,168 --> 00:13:11,098 Dimension because I hadn't really let anybody in on what was going on. 336 00:13:11,098 --> 00:13:14,068 He was one of the people I did and who ended up helping me fix 337 00:13:14,068 --> 00:13:15,298 it from the inside to the out. 338 00:13:15,748 --> 00:13:18,298 But beforehand, we definitely were a little, like much 339 00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:19,558 more distant than we're now. 340 00:13:19,558 --> 00:13:20,158 Yeah, yeah. 341 00:13:20,428 --> 00:13:20,788 Yeah. 342 00:13:20,908 --> 00:13:21,058 That's 343 00:13:21,058 --> 00:13:21,298 fair. 344 00:13:22,288 --> 00:13:24,378 Peter, did you wanna add anything to that, Peter? 345 00:13:25,798 --> 00:13:26,068 Uh, 346 00:13:26,098 --> 00:13:27,598 yeah, that's absolutely accurate. 347 00:13:27,628 --> 00:13:32,098 I mean, we were, um, she was a, a typical, uh, teenage girl, if 348 00:13:32,098 --> 00:13:35,248 you like, and she was finding her own feet and living her own life. 349 00:13:35,488 --> 00:13:39,718 And, uh, whilst I cared about it and loved that, she wasn't a, a huge part of 350 00:13:39,723 --> 00:13:41,578 my life and I wasn't a huge part of hers. 351 00:13:41,998 --> 00:13:44,758 So we connected but not, not that close, if you like. 352 00:13:45,208 --> 00:13:45,538 Okay. 353 00:13:46,008 --> 00:13:46,858 Yeah, yeah. 354 00:13:46,918 --> 00:13:50,728 Now, after this experience, your life started changing 355 00:13:50,818 --> 00:13:53,908 be, how did your life change? 356 00:13:55,903 --> 00:13:56,383 Well, 357 00:13:56,413 --> 00:14:00,163 I mean, I just, at some point I had to start living for 358 00:14:00,163 --> 00:14:01,573 myself to a certain extent. 359 00:14:01,573 --> 00:14:06,403 I was mainly just trying to survive and get through and make everything work. 360 00:14:06,403 --> 00:14:07,943 And at a certain point I had to realize that. 361 00:14:08,618 --> 00:14:12,658 The slack wasn't gonna be picked up by anybody else, and if you are 362 00:14:12,658 --> 00:14:15,478 not your own biggest cheerleader, no one else is gonna be. 363 00:14:15,868 --> 00:14:19,318 So just things like getting out of bed in the morning, like even when that's 364 00:14:19,318 --> 00:14:23,758 tricky, just walking outside, like slowly building it up in that way. 365 00:14:23,758 --> 00:14:28,408 That's just like, okay, have a piece of bread for breakfast and then maybe 366 00:14:28,408 --> 00:14:30,878 tomorrow have toast with something on. 367 00:14:31,303 --> 00:14:34,423 And like I just started, I moved schools to get out of 368 00:14:34,423 --> 00:14:36,343 the environment that I was in. 369 00:14:36,343 --> 00:14:39,643 I started really buckling down on some more things, tuning out, 370 00:14:40,453 --> 00:14:44,143 taking energy I put into potentially self-destructive behaviors and putting 371 00:14:44,148 --> 00:14:47,893 them towards things like studying or like you said, stress relief. 372 00:14:47,923 --> 00:14:51,433 I get like, I do like special little self-care things when I gets super 373 00:14:51,433 --> 00:14:54,953 stressed out and it always really helps just like finding those behaviors. 374 00:14:55,618 --> 00:14:59,638 Help increase your general wellbeing, I think was probably the biggest change. 375 00:14:59,998 --> 00:15:00,088 Okay. 376 00:15:00,268 --> 00:15:02,038 Channeling that energy into something productive. 377 00:15:02,248 --> 00:15:04,078 Let, let's take a couple steps back. 378 00:15:05,278 --> 00:15:08,968 After you had this traumatic experience, how did your life change from before 379 00:15:08,968 --> 00:15:15,088 that you started behaving differently or, I didn't do anything to shut 380 00:15:15,168 --> 00:15:15,248 down. 381 00:15:15,598 --> 00:15:17,248 I spent a lot of time in bed. 382 00:15:18,118 --> 00:15:18,958 I stopped. 383 00:15:19,108 --> 00:15:20,308 I quit TaeKwonDo. 384 00:15:20,308 --> 00:15:20,428 I. 385 00:15:21,733 --> 00:15:21,913 Band. 386 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:23,653 I quit school essentially. 387 00:15:23,653 --> 00:15:24,763 I quit friends. 388 00:15:24,763 --> 00:15:29,233 I just laid in my bed and didn't really do anything. 389 00:15:29,683 --> 00:15:29,863 No. 390 00:15:30,403 --> 00:15:30,943 At all. 391 00:15:30,943 --> 00:15:33,463 To be honest, it doesn't, it's not a very interesting story, 392 00:15:33,463 --> 00:15:35,953 but I just kind of withdrew Yeah. 393 00:15:35,958 --> 00:15:37,753 Into myself for quite a while 394 00:15:38,533 --> 00:15:43,873 and, and self-destructive things like smoking and, yeah, which we don't need to. 395 00:15:45,493 --> 00:15:45,983 Yeah. 396 00:15:46,983 --> 00:15:49,503 I wasn't being that kind to myself. 397 00:15:50,223 --> 00:15:50,373 Okay. 398 00:15:50,373 --> 00:15:54,183 And then I started taking away opportunities from myself and 399 00:15:54,183 --> 00:15:58,683 just withdrawing into this not very happy little shell. 400 00:15:59,163 --> 00:15:59,433 Okay. 401 00:15:59,433 --> 00:16:01,653 And then eventually slowly started crawling back out 402 00:16:01,658 --> 00:16:03,693 it peter into a butterfly. 403 00:16:05,853 --> 00:16:09,243 Peter, during that time period, what, how did you see it 404 00:16:09,303 --> 00:16:10,503 from a father's perspective? 405 00:16:11,913 --> 00:16:12,213 Uh, 406 00:16:12,213 --> 00:16:16,023 well, initially, uh, initially I, I thought it was pretty easy, Brent. 407 00:16:16,113 --> 00:16:17,863 I thought, wow, she's devastated. 408 00:16:17,868 --> 00:16:19,443 She's in a very bad space. 409 00:16:20,103 --> 00:16:22,803 Uh, all I really need to do is to tell her the way. 410 00:16:23,313 --> 00:16:25,393 So tough love, like, like Belle. 411 00:16:25,413 --> 00:16:27,363 You are, you are here and you need to be here. 412 00:16:28,403 --> 00:16:28,983 Get up. 413 00:16:28,983 --> 00:16:29,383 Why 414 00:16:30,063 --> 00:16:31,923 outta bed, get up and go to school. 415 00:16:31,928 --> 00:16:34,953 And I mean, what's, what's hard to understand what I mean? 416 00:16:35,133 --> 00:16:39,033 Like, it's, so my, my first approach was totally. 417 00:16:39,438 --> 00:16:40,038 Off track. 418 00:16:40,128 --> 00:16:43,608 I totally, uh, almost the opposite of what was required. 419 00:16:43,738 --> 00:16:44,868 I, I thought you're here. 420 00:16:44,868 --> 00:16:45,558 You need to be here. 421 00:16:45,558 --> 00:16:47,328 Just, just go, just go forth and do it. 422 00:16:48,768 --> 00:16:55,848 Um, and, uh, and I also thought it was very much about me, uh, loving Belle 423 00:16:55,998 --> 00:16:58,068 and showing how much I loved her. 424 00:16:58,068 --> 00:17:01,068 And I was wrong on both counts, completely wrong by way off track. 425 00:17:01,818 --> 00:17:06,288 Um, I needed to really, uh, work with Belle or help. 426 00:17:07,338 --> 00:17:11,958 Take those tiny steps, like just getting up outta bed in the morning before, say 427 00:17:11,958 --> 00:17:15,138 midday, and then make it a little bit earlier, a bit earlier, a bit earlier, 428 00:17:15,768 --> 00:17:17,838 beginning to eat well or eat better. 429 00:17:18,078 --> 00:17:22,068 And just gradually we're talking over many, many months. 430 00:17:22,073 --> 00:17:24,498 This was six months or more, or almost a year. 431 00:17:24,798 --> 00:17:29,568 Gradually just help her take those steps and also help her, 432 00:17:30,348 --> 00:17:32,418 uh, feel better about herself. 433 00:17:32,418 --> 00:17:33,118 Have more. 434 00:17:34,668 --> 00:17:38,729 More self-care, more self-love because she didn't love it or I didn't think she 435 00:17:38,734 --> 00:17:42,618 loved herself or didn't, it wasn't really caring about herself at, at that time. 436 00:17:42,768 --> 00:17:43,788 And that was quite a long time. 437 00:17:43,788 --> 00:17:44,088 That was, 438 00:17:44,093 --> 00:17:48,498 maybe it was even small things, like I was super intimidated by driving. 439 00:17:48,768 --> 00:17:48,888 Mm-hmm. 440 00:17:49,128 --> 00:17:51,608 , I'm an an inherently anxious person, and that idea of being. 441 00:17:52,578 --> 00:17:56,748 On the road scared me quite a lot and so we started going out for 10 minutes at 442 00:17:56,748 --> 00:18:01,548 night up on the head near our house and we started making it 20 minutes, 30 minutes. 443 00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:05,028 Started maybe getting closer to the main road, started doing it in the afternoon. 444 00:18:05,688 --> 00:18:09,348 So like building it up to the point that I got on the freeway. 445 00:18:09,778 --> 00:18:10,058 . Yeah. 446 00:18:10,058 --> 00:18:12,528 But yeah, it was just baby steps. 447 00:18:12,648 --> 00:18:13,668 Yeah, very small steps. 448 00:18:13,668 --> 00:18:18,138 So we used to, we used to drive around the headland near where we lived in the. 449 00:18:19,248 --> 00:18:22,668 At about nine o'clock at night where there was no cars, like a huge car 450 00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:24,798 park with no cars in, on a headland. 451 00:18:24,888 --> 00:18:28,488 Just driving around and gradually getting a bit faster and 452 00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:29,478 introducing cars. 453 00:18:29,538 --> 00:18:32,328 I went at 20 Ks an hour for about a year. 454 00:18:34,218 --> 00:18:35,598 gradually, gradually got faster. 455 00:18:35,603 --> 00:18:41,678 It, it was, um, it was real, real baby sips and then build and building on. 456 00:18:42,693 --> 00:18:46,863 Uh, and, and that's, that's one of the big things I learned, that it's 457 00:18:46,863 --> 00:18:52,563 not, not about making, like taking massive action or doing something huge. 458 00:18:52,563 --> 00:18:54,393 In our case, that wasn't going to work. 459 00:18:54,393 --> 00:18:59,403 It was identifying those small things as a, keeping them as like a, a stepping 460 00:18:59,403 --> 00:19:01,683 stone, if you like to move forward. 461 00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:02,543 Okay. 462 00:19:02,543 --> 00:19:02,983 Yeah. 463 00:19:04,203 --> 00:19:08,073 Now guys, we're spending a little time getting to know Peter and Belle so far. 464 00:19:08,588 --> 00:19:11,658 In the second half of the show, we're going to get into how this all 465 00:19:11,658 --> 00:19:13,668 changed and, and what it means now. 466 00:19:13,968 --> 00:19:17,958 And you guys, you need to stay with us because this is an incredible story 467 00:19:18,198 --> 00:19:21,228 about a father and his daughter and. 468 00:19:22,518 --> 00:19:25,038 I I, there's a reason this is a Christmas show, guys, 469 00:19:25,038 --> 00:19:25,958 you're, you're gonna love this. 470 00:19:25,958 --> 00:19:26,808 This is a beautiful present. 471 00:19:26,808 --> 00:19:27,798 You guys are gonna dig this. 472 00:19:28,248 --> 00:19:30,468 We're gonna rob our sponsors and we'll be right back. 473 00:19:30,468 --> 00:19:31,458 More from Peter and Belle. 474 00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:33,168 How well do you sleep at night? 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496 00:20:27,213 --> 00:20:27,573 Should I 497 00:20:27,573 --> 00:20:27,873 take that? 498 00:20:27,963 --> 00:20:28,593 Yeah, you can go. 499 00:20:28,593 --> 00:20:28,803 You good? 500 00:20:28,923 --> 00:20:29,043 Yeah. 501 00:20:29,073 --> 00:20:30,813 Um, probably pretty paramount. 502 00:20:30,813 --> 00:20:35,403 I mean, it's your first real, well, it's your first male relationship 503 00:20:35,403 --> 00:20:37,203 that shows you that model of. 504 00:20:38,223 --> 00:20:39,003 You should be treated. 505 00:20:39,003 --> 00:20:42,273 It's one of your, as your parent, it's their primary role to make you 506 00:20:42,273 --> 00:20:47,193 feel good, to round you out, send you off into the world, all nice 507 00:20:48,303 --> 00:20:54,603 I think a lack of it definitely has quite a critical influence on your wellbeing. 508 00:20:54,608 --> 00:20:57,123 You can definitely thrive and flourish without it. 509 00:20:57,123 --> 00:20:58,383 I'm not discounting that. 510 00:20:58,383 --> 00:21:02,463 I just think it's definitely has quite an influence to have that healthy 511 00:21:02,463 --> 00:21:05,883 communication open, to have that assistance and making yourself feel. 512 00:21:07,218 --> 00:21:07,758 What about you? 513 00:21:07,878 --> 00:21:07,968 What 514 00:21:07,968 --> 00:21:08,178 would you say? 515 00:21:08,178 --> 00:21:08,928 Yeah, absolutely. 516 00:21:09,438 --> 00:21:13,128 I, I think like most dads, you don't really have a dad playbook. 517 00:21:13,608 --> 00:21:17,718 Uh, so you are trying your best to love them the best you possibly can. 518 00:21:18,228 --> 00:21:21,618 And then as they grow up, you're, um, you're facing different sorts of 519 00:21:21,623 --> 00:21:27,228 challenges and uh, it's, but it is, it's the most challenging and the most 520 00:21:27,228 --> 00:21:29,328 rewarding role, um, at the same time. 521 00:21:29,468 --> 00:21:32,868 But I think, I think dads and daughters, it's a bit trickier than dads were sons. 522 00:21:32,868 --> 00:21:34,818 Cause I think boys are a little bit more straight. 523 00:21:35,408 --> 00:21:36,668 But that's my experience anyway. 524 00:21:37,498 --> 00:21:38,168 As a boy. 525 00:21:38,168 --> 00:21:38,798 As a boy. 526 00:21:38,828 --> 00:21:39,578 Yeah, as a 527 00:21:39,578 --> 00:21:39,818 boy. 528 00:21:40,628 --> 00:21:41,948 I have two little ones. 529 00:21:41,948 --> 00:21:43,778 I have a 10 year old and an eight year old right now. 530 00:21:44,078 --> 00:21:44,678 Two girls? 531 00:21:44,978 --> 00:21:45,248 Yeah. 532 00:21:45,578 --> 00:21:46,298 That are just two girls. 533 00:21:46,748 --> 00:21:46,778 Okay. 534 00:21:46,838 --> 00:21:47,858 My heart and soul. 535 00:21:48,338 --> 00:21:49,168 Uh, oh. 536 00:21:49,678 --> 00:21:51,998 I, I love, just love having that time. 537 00:21:52,003 --> 00:21:55,688 I, I'm dreading the day when they hit the teenage phase and they, 538 00:21:55,688 --> 00:21:58,958 and they don't come running the door daddy, when I get home. 539 00:21:59,828 --> 00:22:00,158 Uh, I'm 540 00:22:00,288 --> 00:22:01,868 dreading, dreading that day. 541 00:22:02,893 --> 00:22:03,613 Yeah, we 542 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:05,613 really, we 180 on that one. 543 00:22:07,683 --> 00:22:07,803 . . Oh, 544 00:22:07,923 --> 00:22:08,193 good. 545 00:22:08,193 --> 00:22:09,633 So it can't come back around. 546 00:22:09,633 --> 00:22:09,993 Okay. 547 00:22:10,713 --> 00:22:14,463 Right now they're, again, it has . They're, they're young enough. 548 00:22:14,463 --> 00:22:17,703 I'm still Superman, so I, I, I love, I'm loving this part of their life. 549 00:22:17,763 --> 00:22:18,153 Right. 550 00:22:19,443 --> 00:22:22,263 . But I, I think, I think you hit it on the head, Peter. 551 00:22:22,263 --> 00:22:24,483 There there is no, and there's no playbook for moms. 552 00:22:24,483 --> 00:22:24,783 Right. 553 00:22:24,783 --> 00:22:26,703 We, we all try and learn from our parents. 554 00:22:27,708 --> 00:22:31,278 But it's amazing even if you have great parents, right? 555 00:22:31,278 --> 00:22:35,418 I, I was blessed with very good parents, but becoming a parent, you're. 556 00:22:36,543 --> 00:22:39,513 Uh, how did , how did they do this? 557 00:22:39,513 --> 00:22:40,773 How did they not kill us all? 558 00:22:40,773 --> 00:22:41,203 They need to 559 00:22:41,203 --> 00:22:42,923 mold, you're a whole own person, right? 560 00:22:42,923 --> 00:22:46,963 That's like, and I think it's tricky now too, Brent, because I mean, uh, I was 561 00:22:46,963 --> 00:22:51,603 fortunate enough to have, um, two, two great parents, but it's a very different 562 00:22:51,603 --> 00:22:54,323 generation, uh, now than, than men. 563 00:22:54,663 --> 00:22:58,323 And I think, I think the, the challenges on young people now, I think the 564 00:22:58,323 --> 00:23:01,983 young teens, there's extraordinary challenges on them that weren't. 565 00:23:03,003 --> 00:23:07,563 Um, uh, our parents, um, when, when they were, um, when they were raising us. 566 00:23:07,623 --> 00:23:12,063 So it's, it requires a different playbook, I guess, in some ways, but 567 00:23:12,063 --> 00:23:16,743 also it's, uh, it's different, but it's also the same in terms of just finding 568 00:23:16,743 --> 00:23:20,163 a way to, um, to love your children and give them the love that they need. 569 00:23:20,163 --> 00:23:25,143 And that's like the, that's the journey, um, that I think each parent's on to 570 00:23:25,143 --> 00:23:26,523 find the right love for the child at 571 00:23:26,523 --> 00:23:26,913 the time. 572 00:23:28,443 --> 00:23:29,343 I definitely agree. 573 00:23:29,343 --> 00:23:31,203 It's, uh, it is a very different. 574 00:23:31,938 --> 00:23:33,798 I'm 42. 575 00:23:33,918 --> 00:23:34,608 I'm feeling old now. 576 00:23:35,208 --> 00:23:41,238 Um, I'm 42 and like, just, just watching my children, it's like the world is 577 00:23:41,243 --> 00:23:46,188 so, so much different than I, yeah, I, I tease them because I had, you 578 00:23:46,193 --> 00:23:50,628 know, one of the first modern cell phones and I was 19 when it came out. 579 00:23:51,453 --> 00:23:51,783 Know. 580 00:23:51,783 --> 00:23:54,243 Now my daughter's, my 10 year old wants her own cell phone. 581 00:23:54,243 --> 00:23:55,323 I'm like, uh, no. 582 00:23:55,803 --> 00:23:56,253 Excuse me. 583 00:23:56,253 --> 00:23:56,523 What? 584 00:23:56,523 --> 00:23:56,943 No. 585 00:23:57,663 --> 00:23:58,323 Yeah, yeah. 586 00:23:58,323 --> 00:24:01,803 Who are you calling ? Who are you going to call? 587 00:24:01,863 --> 00:24:02,373 You know? 588 00:24:02,643 --> 00:24:02,823 Yeah. 589 00:24:04,893 --> 00:24:05,193 It's, 590 00:24:05,823 --> 00:24:08,133 it's like Google and social media. 591 00:24:08,138 --> 00:24:12,873 It's, uh, all the, all the apps and all the, the YouTube, they've got access to. 592 00:24:12,873 --> 00:24:15,453 It's, it's a very different world, uh, for them, and it's a lot. 593 00:24:15,933 --> 00:24:16,773 It's, it's a lot more 594 00:24:17,153 --> 00:24:17,673 challenging for them. 595 00:24:17,913 --> 00:24:22,203 I remember I, you gave me my first phone when I was in year six, which 596 00:24:22,323 --> 00:24:25,923 would be, you guys have different metrics, but I was about 12. 597 00:24:26,283 --> 00:24:26,313 Okay. 598 00:24:26,318 --> 00:24:30,153 I got one of those slide up phones just for like, when I was on the bus 599 00:24:30,153 --> 00:24:33,393 coming home from school or whatever, and I thought I was the coolest kid. 600 00:24:35,493 --> 00:24:37,383 A little slot up and I'd be like, I have a keyboard. 601 00:24:38,043 --> 00:24:38,733 Do you have a keyboard? 602 00:24:39,333 --> 00:24:39,663 Makes sense. 603 00:24:40,663 --> 00:24:41,173 Oh yeah. 604 00:24:41,233 --> 00:24:41,713 No, it's. 605 00:24:42,853 --> 00:24:45,943 It's just funny to watch the changes, right, that you have to deal with. 606 00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:49,603 I think a lot of our young people's problems can now follow them 607 00:24:49,603 --> 00:24:52,573 home where it couldn't before, right when I was growing up. 608 00:24:52,663 --> 00:24:52,723 Yeah. 609 00:24:52,728 --> 00:24:55,433 Anything that's happening, like being bullied at school or any 610 00:24:55,673 --> 00:24:58,543 disagreement you have with friends or anything, you're worried about boys 611 00:24:58,543 --> 00:25:02,473 or like whatever it is, you can't leave and go and do your own life. 612 00:25:02,473 --> 00:25:03,253 It exists. 613 00:25:03,793 --> 00:25:06,913 It permeates throughout your entire life right before you go to bed. 614 00:25:06,913 --> 00:25:08,473 Right when you wake up, which makes a lot. 615 00:25:09,598 --> 00:25:13,648 Creates, well, exacerbates doesn't create a lot of mental health issues 616 00:25:13,648 --> 00:25:16,678 that come around, especially within like the context of high school. 617 00:25:16,858 --> 00:25:16,948 Mm-hmm. 618 00:25:17,193 --> 00:25:20,788 , you can't leave and get away from whatever was happening. 619 00:25:20,793 --> 00:25:22,138 It's around all the time. 620 00:25:22,318 --> 00:25:22,648 Mm-hmm. 621 00:25:23,158 --> 00:25:23,648 Yeah. 622 00:25:24,478 --> 00:25:24,538 Yeah. 623 00:25:25,648 --> 00:25:26,278 It'll be, it's true. 624 00:25:26,548 --> 00:25:30,448 Very interesting how life continues to progress, Belle. 625 00:25:30,548 --> 00:25:33,478 Would you think that, uh, it would be healthier for young people to 626 00:25:33,478 --> 00:25:34,828 spend less time on social media? 627 00:25:35,698 --> 00:25:36,448 Absolutely. 628 00:25:36,838 --> 00:25:37,408 Absolutely. 629 00:25:37,408 --> 00:25:37,528 I. 630 00:25:38,353 --> 00:25:39,853 Definitely limiting it. 631 00:25:39,883 --> 00:25:42,253 You don't have to completely remove yourself because that 632 00:25:42,253 --> 00:25:43,993 creates a whole other problem. 633 00:25:43,993 --> 00:25:48,283 You don't wanna be disconnected from what is now the central form of communication. 634 00:25:48,463 --> 00:25:48,553 Mm-hmm. 635 00:25:48,793 --> 00:25:53,443 . But you definitely need to be strict with yourself about it and when you 636 00:25:53,443 --> 00:25:55,963 see, be purposeful about what you put. 637 00:25:56,398 --> 00:26:00,178 On your own pages, things like saying not interested to things 638 00:26:00,178 --> 00:26:01,468 that wouldn't be beneficial to you. 639 00:26:01,468 --> 00:26:05,488 Like for girls it's things like photos of supermodels and that kind of stuff, 640 00:26:05,488 --> 00:26:10,588 giving you very yucky feelings about yourself or for guys, I'm sure there's a 641 00:26:10,593 --> 00:26:13,678 similar equivalent, or it's just things like not going on your phone straight 642 00:26:13,678 --> 00:26:17,668 away when you wake up so that your first thing you see is all these other, the 643 00:26:17,668 --> 00:26:19,228 highlight reels of other people's lives. 644 00:26:19,228 --> 00:26:22,018 When you're looking at your own bloopers, it's like not a very. 645 00:26:24,043 --> 00:26:25,123 Way to compare yourself. 646 00:26:25,123 --> 00:26:28,153 So I think it's good to have, it's really good to stay in contact with 647 00:26:28,153 --> 00:26:30,673 your friends and stay in the limits. 648 00:26:30,673 --> 00:26:33,823 Fun to post, it's fun to do all that stuff, but you definitely need to have 649 00:26:33,823 --> 00:26:35,533 rules around it for your own wellbeing. 650 00:26:35,833 --> 00:26:35,983 Yeah. 651 00:26:36,313 --> 00:26:37,543 I think that's undeniable. 652 00:26:37,783 --> 00:26:38,203 Absolutely. 653 00:26:38,823 --> 00:26:40,153 I, I love the way you said that. 654 00:26:40,513 --> 00:26:43,063 Looking at everybody's best moments while you're looking at your own bloopers. 655 00:26:43,903 --> 00:26:44,083 Yeah. 656 00:26:44,303 --> 00:26:46,273 Like you just see everyone's like super fun. 657 00:26:46,273 --> 00:26:46,783 I connect 658 00:26:46,783 --> 00:26:47,263 with that. 659 00:26:48,533 --> 00:26:49,023 Yeah. 660 00:26:49,978 --> 00:26:50,248 Yeah. 661 00:26:50,428 --> 00:26:51,898 You're like, my life doesn't look like that. 662 00:26:52,308 --> 00:26:53,788 like that life doesn't either. 663 00:26:54,108 --> 00:26:56,218 I I recommend that to adults too. 664 00:26:56,218 --> 00:26:59,308 I, I mean, I recommend to adults I talk to all the time. 665 00:26:59,308 --> 00:27:03,328 It's like, take take an hour or two before you touch your 666 00:27:03,328 --> 00:27:05,098 electronics when you get up. 667 00:27:05,103 --> 00:27:05,288 Yeah. 668 00:27:05,288 --> 00:27:05,648 Yeah. 669 00:27:05,998 --> 00:27:10,558 You know, start, start your day here, present here, not present here. 670 00:27:11,638 --> 00:27:11,818 Yeah. 671 00:27:11,818 --> 00:27:14,168 And even in smaller things, like I've got it. 672 00:27:14,168 --> 00:27:15,288 That doesn't show. 673 00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:16,768 Notifications. 674 00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:19,348 When you get a notification from Instagram or Snapchat or whatever, 675 00:27:19,348 --> 00:27:20,668 it doesn't show what it says. 676 00:27:20,668 --> 00:27:24,058 So unless you're like ready to actively engage with it, it's like, 677 00:27:24,063 --> 00:27:27,928 Hey, something's happening, but you're not gonna, but you'll see it 678 00:27:27,928 --> 00:27:29,308 when you see it, if that makes sense. 679 00:27:29,338 --> 00:27:29,368 Mm. 680 00:27:29,698 --> 00:27:32,578 It doesn't like permeate won't distract you from whatever you're doing if 681 00:27:32,578 --> 00:27:36,028 you get a notification that would like cause concern or something. 682 00:27:36,298 --> 00:27:36,718 Mm-hmm. 683 00:27:38,203 --> 00:27:43,033 . Now I think it's interesting too, Brent, that, um, we are talking to 684 00:27:43,033 --> 00:27:46,633 each other less too, which I, I guess also gets to the parenting piece. 685 00:27:46,933 --> 00:27:51,793 I, I saw some research recently that, um, apple released and they said that, 686 00:27:51,823 --> 00:27:57,133 uh, they just looking at conversations in terms of people's conversations on phones 687 00:27:57,138 --> 00:27:58,783 not live, face to face conversations. 688 00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:03,493 And they've fallen every year since 2006 until the average length of 689 00:28:03,498 --> 00:28:05,503 a conversation now is 22 seconds. 690 00:28:06,243 --> 00:28:06,733 Yeah. 691 00:28:06,738 --> 00:28:12,493 Uh, and, and people are spending less than 10% of their phone time talking to people. 692 00:28:13,363 --> 00:28:18,103 So it's, it, it's not just the Instagram and, and all that, all that sort of very 693 00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:20,083 highly curated life that you're seeing. 694 00:28:20,593 --> 00:28:23,893 You're actually talking to people less, having less human. 695 00:28:24,273 --> 00:28:28,323 To human conversations, which, which really concerns me too, because you 696 00:28:28,323 --> 00:28:33,003 can't solve much with Instagram or uh, or Facebook or whatever your 697 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:34,773 favorite social media platform is. 698 00:28:34,773 --> 00:28:39,543 You can stay connected in a way, but when it comes to a parenting relationship, 699 00:28:39,693 --> 00:28:41,463 it's not a social media relationship. 700 00:28:41,463 --> 00:28:46,053 It's a real, a real relationship based on real conversations 701 00:28:46,053 --> 00:28:47,553 about really important issues. 702 00:28:47,783 --> 00:28:51,333 And as well, like we've created this model of social media and 703 00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:52,833 social interaction, which is meant. 704 00:28:53,608 --> 00:28:56,488 Progress the way that we communicate with each other, but it's actually made 705 00:28:56,488 --> 00:29:01,228 us more disconnected than we ever have been, which creates a lot more loneliness 706 00:29:01,588 --> 00:29:05,248 in a lot of the younger generation where in a sense that you have more 707 00:29:05,248 --> 00:29:07,888 opportunity to talk to people, you're constantly talking to people, but you 708 00:29:07,888 --> 00:29:11,728 don't get the same human connection that makes that fulfills you in that way. 709 00:29:11,758 --> 00:29:15,508 So you just get left with this like kind of empty, oh my God, love 710 00:29:15,508 --> 00:29:20,458 your photo queen instead of like actual friendships and interactions. 711 00:29:20,458 --> 00:29:21,658 We're all conversations. 712 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:21,988 Yeah. 713 00:29:22,648 --> 00:29:24,228 Yeah, the first time one of my friends and that. 714 00:29:24,928 --> 00:29:25,448 Sorry, go ahead. 715 00:29:25,448 --> 00:29:25,728 Sorry. 716 00:29:25,728 --> 00:29:26,008 You go, Brent. 717 00:29:26,558 --> 00:29:29,758 I was, I was just gonna say, you know, uh, uh, when you're in a 718 00:29:29,758 --> 00:29:32,398 genuine friendship with somebody or a genuine relationship with 719 00:29:32,398 --> 00:29:36,808 somebody, it's not an Instagram highly created reel that you're talking to. 720 00:29:36,808 --> 00:29:39,898 You're talking to a real person usually about real issues, concerns, 721 00:29:39,898 --> 00:29:44,218 fears, problems that you'll, you'll never see on a social media post. 722 00:29:44,898 --> 00:29:48,058 Uh uh, and that's, that's the real relationship. 723 00:29:48,118 --> 00:29:50,338 That's not the social media relationship. 724 00:29:50,398 --> 00:29:50,878 That's almost the 725 00:29:50,878 --> 00:29:55,333 opposite in the same way that it can become, Even not just in one-on-one 726 00:29:55,333 --> 00:29:59,923 interactions in the way that we interact on the internet in general is very just, 727 00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:01,753 we've created two extremes of opinion. 728 00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:04,363 There's no ground for a middle. 729 00:30:04,363 --> 00:30:06,943 There's no, people will be on one side of an argument, people will be on the other, 730 00:30:06,943 --> 00:30:08,563 and they'll be disgusting to each other. 731 00:30:08,563 --> 00:30:14,803 There's no room for constructive growth or any form of real dialogue. 732 00:30:14,803 --> 00:30:15,463 It just comes down. 733 00:30:16,228 --> 00:30:19,588 Who wore the best dress at the Met Gala, and if I think her dress is 734 00:30:19,588 --> 00:30:21,268 ugly, I'm gonna send her death threats. 735 00:30:21,658 --> 00:30:26,928 Like it just turns into this really disgusting manifestation 736 00:30:26,933 --> 00:30:28,168 of our worst traits. 737 00:30:28,208 --> 00:30:28,608 Mm-hmm. 738 00:30:28,688 --> 00:30:32,308 , instead of being real constructive dialogue with other people that helps you 739 00:30:32,308 --> 00:30:34,318 progress to be an even better individual. 740 00:30:34,323 --> 00:30:37,108 It just, I think it's overall very destructive. 741 00:30:37,858 --> 00:30:40,768 Definitely necessary in some aspects and helps you in a lot 742 00:30:40,768 --> 00:30:43,468 of ways, definitely networking, staying in contact with people, but. 743 00:30:44,278 --> 00:30:46,738 Can be incredibly destructive if left on check. 744 00:30:47,248 --> 00:30:48,658 Hmm, absolutely. 745 00:30:49,648 --> 00:30:52,948 Uh, friend of ours from Sydney, actually, uh, Dr. 746 00:30:52,948 --> 00:30:57,088 Christian Heim has been on the show once or twice or three times now, I 747 00:30:57,093 --> 00:31:01,588 think, but he, uh, put out a, like six minute video on his YouTube channel. 748 00:31:02,128 --> 00:31:07,048 Really well done video talking about the, uh, actual neurological and 749 00:31:07,228 --> 00:31:12,508 physiological impacts of prolonged media exposure, social media exposure. 750 00:31:13,183 --> 00:31:15,463 On the brain itself and what it's doing to our brains. 751 00:31:16,063 --> 00:31:18,733 I was like, oh, that's, that's really depressing. 752 00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:20,083 Like it's actually like yeah. 753 00:31:20,143 --> 00:31:23,263 Shrinking the part of your brain that's capable of empathy, like the 754 00:31:23,268 --> 00:31:24,883 center for that controls empathy. 755 00:31:24,943 --> 00:31:25,103 Really. 756 00:31:25,103 --> 00:31:25,263 Yeah. 757 00:31:25,603 --> 00:31:25,903 Yeah. 758 00:31:25,903 --> 00:31:29,353 Prolonged social media, just constant barment. 759 00:31:29,653 --> 00:31:31,783 It is actually shrinking in the brain. 760 00:31:31,783 --> 00:31:34,513 They're finding out it's shrinking that center where empathy comes. 761 00:31:35,698 --> 00:31:36,298 Wow. 762 00:31:36,448 --> 00:31:40,468 And seeing that concrete proof of how much of an influence that has is like scary. 763 00:31:41,148 --> 00:31:41,638 Yeah. 764 00:31:41,748 --> 00:31:42,238 Yeah. 765 00:31:43,108 --> 00:31:45,208 But hey, we'll go into happier moments. 766 00:31:45,838 --> 00:31:47,818 Just that is kind of depressing thoughts. 767 00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:53,338 Tell us a little bit, you, you hit this moment right where you 768 00:31:53,338 --> 00:31:57,238 had this conversation that just started turning things around. 769 00:31:57,988 --> 00:31:58,318 Tell us. 770 00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:04,348 Well, I . I was struggling for a very long time. 771 00:32:04,348 --> 00:32:07,798 I was, and I was doing it all by myself. 772 00:32:07,798 --> 00:32:10,978 I didn't want to let anybody in on what was really. 773 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:15,508 So I understand how from an external perspective, like the one that you 774 00:32:15,508 --> 00:32:20,368 had, I just looked like a dicky little teenager doing stupid things, not taking 775 00:32:20,368 --> 00:32:23,518 break care of myself, not getting outta bed, not doing all that kinda stuff. 776 00:32:23,998 --> 00:32:27,448 And it hit a certain point where I was starting to realize that I 777 00:32:27,448 --> 00:32:31,228 really wasn't okay, and I could no longer be like, oh, it's fine. 778 00:32:31,228 --> 00:32:31,888 It's fine, it's fine. 779 00:32:31,888 --> 00:32:34,018 Because it was seriously starting to impact my. 780 00:32:34,973 --> 00:32:38,933 And we had a moment in our kitchen, , actually, I think it was in lockdown. 781 00:32:39,043 --> 00:32:39,893 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 782 00:32:39,983 --> 00:32:44,993 I spent a lot of time staring at the wall and coming to some realizations, 783 00:32:45,503 --> 00:32:50,843 and I had a break where I just, dad was asking me why I felt that way, 784 00:32:50,873 --> 00:32:52,733 what he thought the core of it was. 785 00:32:52,733 --> 00:32:52,973 What. 786 00:32:53,548 --> 00:32:56,218 Trying to break down, trying to figure it out, because I'd only just started 787 00:32:56,218 --> 00:32:57,478 really talking to him about it. 788 00:32:58,108 --> 00:33:02,128 And what we came down to was just, I didn't think that I was enough. 789 00:33:02,698 --> 00:33:04,558 I didn't think that I was good enough. 790 00:33:04,558 --> 00:33:05,788 I didn't think I was pretty enough. 791 00:33:05,788 --> 00:33:07,048 I didn't think I was smart enough. 792 00:33:07,078 --> 00:33:12,388 I didn't think I was good enough to deserve a better quality of life, which 793 00:33:12,418 --> 00:33:15,868 is really what came down to me manifesting those terrible situations for myself. 794 00:33:16,378 --> 00:33:19,783 And so dad's thing became, You are enough. 795 00:33:20,593 --> 00:33:26,323 And because he's a comedian, it became you're A N U F F and then that. 796 00:33:26,913 --> 00:33:27,373 SP world. 797 00:33:27,373 --> 00:33:31,183 I started for my HSC high school certificate, which is our year 798 00:33:31,183 --> 00:33:33,403 11 and 12 major assessments. 799 00:33:33,763 --> 00:33:36,343 I started working on things about self-esteem and all that kind of 800 00:33:36,343 --> 00:33:40,213 stuff as a way to be interested in it and also learn more about 801 00:33:40,213 --> 00:33:41,503 it in order to help myself. 802 00:33:41,923 --> 00:33:43,963 And we came across a lot of different things. 803 00:33:43,968 --> 00:33:46,863 We started doing, oh, maybe we should do t-shirts. 804 00:33:46,863 --> 00:33:47,443 Maybe we should do this here. 805 00:33:47,443 --> 00:33:48,253 Enough thing. 806 00:33:48,253 --> 00:33:51,613 And it just turned into this really beautiful project together 807 00:33:51,613 --> 00:33:52,983 that ended up helping me. 808 00:33:53,758 --> 00:33:57,058 Feel a lot kinder to myself, realizing that what I was telling other people 809 00:33:57,058 --> 00:34:00,838 to do and what I was saying, what I was preaching about self love 810 00:34:00,838 --> 00:34:04,258 and self-worth was something that I equally deserved to listen to and 811 00:34:04,263 --> 00:34:05,878 equally deserve to add to my life. 812 00:34:05,883 --> 00:34:08,938 And I think it was, yeah, definitely something very constructive. 813 00:34:10,318 --> 00:34:10,558 Yeah. 814 00:34:11,558 --> 00:34:13,388 And we have the beautiful website. 815 00:34:13,988 --> 00:34:18,518 You're enough now let's, for all of our listeners, cuz Right, this is a podcast. 816 00:34:18,938 --> 00:34:24,218 Guys, that's y o u r a n u f f. 817 00:34:25,118 --> 00:34:26,648 It's grammatically incorrect. 818 00:34:26,918 --> 00:34:27,998 I apologize for that. 819 00:34:27,998 --> 00:34:28,178 Yeah. 820 00:34:28,268 --> 00:34:29,678 But other way through 821 00:34:30,398 --> 00:34:30,998 making sense. 822 00:34:30,998 --> 00:34:34,928 And there's a, and we've had a lot of, uh, lot of, we had, we've had some flat 823 00:34:34,928 --> 00:34:38,078 print about the grammatical incorrectness. 824 00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:39,668 Uh, but it's, it's, he 825 00:34:39,668 --> 00:34:40,868 likes the grammatically incorrect. 826 00:34:40,868 --> 00:34:41,618 It, it's very, 827 00:34:41,618 --> 00:34:42,368 I mean, it's. 828 00:34:43,133 --> 00:34:47,603 Uh, we, I mean, it started off as, as almost like a, almost like a semi, 829 00:34:47,933 --> 00:34:51,953 like a joke between Belle and I, like, you're enough, you're a, you're a, uh, 830 00:34:52,733 --> 00:34:55,943 as be was saying big enough, strong enough, smart enough to deal with this. 831 00:34:56,033 --> 00:35:01,068 And then we thought, um, We've started sharing that with other people that, that 832 00:35:01,068 --> 00:35:04,818 idea, that thought, and they said, um, that's a really great message for people. 833 00:35:04,818 --> 00:35:05,748 Really great message. 834 00:35:05,808 --> 00:35:09,768 Um, not just for young women, but for, but for, for people in general, 835 00:35:09,768 --> 00:35:13,338 for parents, um, for, uh, for teenage boys, for teenage girls. 836 00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:18,189 And, uh, we thought, um, we, we, we, people said you should, you guys should 837 00:35:18,194 --> 00:35:19,638 make some t-shirts with that on it. 838 00:35:19,668 --> 00:35:20,958 And we thought, who's gonna. 839 00:35:21,818 --> 00:35:22,838 T-shirt with enough on it. 840 00:35:22,928 --> 00:35:24,578 I mean, I'm thinking some people. 841 00:35:25,388 --> 00:35:29,018 Anyway, I I, I got a, i I, I was the angel investor. 842 00:35:29,048 --> 00:35:33,698 I got a, I got a hundred t-shirts made, uh, by a local printer, and I 843 00:35:33,698 --> 00:35:36,968 just bought a simple Facebook post with our story and the enough, and, 844 00:35:36,973 --> 00:35:38,828 and it, it's, they sold in a day. 845 00:35:38,833 --> 00:35:39,158 There's what? 846 00:35:39,308 --> 00:35:41,078 Bang, they, they disappeared. 847 00:35:41,078 --> 00:35:45,458 I'm thinking, wow, this is, this is really, really, uh, really exciting. 848 00:35:45,458 --> 00:35:46,508 Really, really crazy. 849 00:35:46,598 --> 00:35:48,428 Uh, and it was, it was interesting. 850 00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:53,904 The story of the business or the story of, of that idea becoming a business that 851 00:35:53,909 --> 00:35:59,423 you like, Belle's business, uh, was, was the story of her, uh, rebuilding her life. 852 00:36:00,203 --> 00:36:06,323 Uh, and, and as, as the business grew and as, as the idea grew her, her life grew. 853 00:36:06,383 --> 00:36:07,793 We're not talking like overnight. 854 00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:12,483 Again, we're talking about over six to 12 months that this, this, 855 00:36:12,488 --> 00:36:15,368 this idea was developing and this business was developing. 856 00:36:15,983 --> 00:36:20,168 And through that time, Got herself healthy again. 857 00:36:20,288 --> 00:36:21,368 Got herself back to school. 858 00:36:21,368 --> 00:36:26,408 We changed schools, uh, back to school and then did really 859 00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:28,388 well in, uh, high school year. 860 00:36:28,638 --> 00:36:31,538 Started eating, which started eating properly, started 861 00:36:31,538 --> 00:36:32,768 feeling better about herself. 862 00:36:32,768 --> 00:36:34,808 Started going outside, started wearing. 863 00:36:35,198 --> 00:36:36,398 More regular clothes. 864 00:36:36,518 --> 00:36:37,808 I mean the whole, the whole nine 865 00:36:37,808 --> 00:36:37,958 yards. 866 00:36:37,958 --> 00:36:40,448 I dressed kind of like Adam Sandler for quite a while. 867 00:36:40,838 --> 00:36:41,468 , it was a bit of a thing. 868 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:44,108 . Yeah. 869 00:36:44,108 --> 00:36:48,188 And it, it was, it was interesting how the, as, as Belle developed, 870 00:36:48,278 --> 00:36:52,358 the, the business developed alongside her and a, a lot of parents, 871 00:36:53,438 --> 00:36:54,938 a lot of kids loved the idea. 872 00:36:55,118 --> 00:36:56,648 And we started the website. 873 00:36:57,398 --> 00:36:58,768 Uh, we started Shopify. 874 00:36:59,978 --> 00:37:03,218 and people were sending us photos of them, of them with their enough shirts 875 00:37:03,218 --> 00:37:04,598 on for them and them and their kids. 876 00:37:04,718 --> 00:37:08,648 We started posting those on Instagram and it was, uh, yeah. 877 00:37:08,648 --> 00:37:11,648 It's just an idea that just, it just, it grew organically. 878 00:37:11,708 --> 00:37:15,788 It wasn't something that we we're masterminds like, we're Elon Musk 879 00:37:15,968 --> 00:37:17,918 business people that practice Great idea. 880 00:37:17,978 --> 00:37:19,238 We're gonna buy Twitter or whatever. 881 00:37:19,598 --> 00:37:19,718 Mm-hmm. 882 00:37:19,958 --> 00:37:21,398 , it just, it just developed, which is really 883 00:37:21,398 --> 00:37:21,818 nice. 884 00:37:22,328 --> 00:37:23,268 Really nice for Belle. 885 00:37:24,638 --> 00:37:27,338 And there's just that turning point where you finally talked. 886 00:37:28,658 --> 00:37:32,558 And just, this is the conversation that really took hold is You're enough? 887 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:32,798 Mm-hmm. 888 00:37:33,043 --> 00:37:33,088 . Yeah. 889 00:37:33,728 --> 00:37:34,088 Yeah. 890 00:37:34,118 --> 00:37:38,618 I mean, I was so convinced that I had to figure it out on my own, and we weren't 891 00:37:38,618 --> 00:37:41,888 very close for quite a while, so I didn't feel like I could let him run on it. 892 00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:43,658 I didn't feel like I could let my friends in on it. 893 00:37:43,663 --> 00:37:44,888 I didn't think I thought that. 894 00:37:44,893 --> 00:37:45,578 I just had to. 895 00:37:45,998 --> 00:37:48,368 Get over it, pull my socks up, keep going. 896 00:37:48,938 --> 00:37:53,468 And it's actually that final step in asking for help or not even asking. 897 00:37:53,468 --> 00:37:56,918 Just saying that you are struggling and saying that there is something 898 00:37:56,918 --> 00:38:01,028 seriously wrong that you need to address is such a scary step to take. 899 00:38:01,388 --> 00:38:04,388 And once you do it, it just improves your life tenfold. 900 00:38:04,748 --> 00:38:08,498 Yeah, I, I think what happens, well, what I realized happens too is that, 901 00:38:08,978 --> 00:38:13,268 um, Belle had, from my perspective, had basically lost trust in the world. 902 00:38:14,168 --> 00:38:15,968 Uh, lost trust in everybody, pretty much. 903 00:38:16,448 --> 00:38:22,358 Uh, and it's, it's a bit tricky to get in and try and, um, help your 904 00:38:22,358 --> 00:38:26,588 daughter or your son or whoever you're caring for, uh, trust you enough to 905 00:38:26,828 --> 00:38:29,158 rely on you to help make that next. 906 00:38:29,888 --> 00:38:35,168 So, uh, and, and the other thing I, I learned was that it's, it's, 907 00:38:35,258 --> 00:38:38,858 it's not, not about, um, how much, how much she loved them. 908 00:38:38,858 --> 00:38:43,268 It's a matter of, of how much, um, love they can feel for themselves and 909 00:38:43,268 --> 00:38:47,498 helping them feel that, and something like this business helped Belle feel 910 00:38:47,498 --> 00:38:49,658 like she could do something worthwhile. 911 00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,918 She could do something good for the world if you. 912 00:38:52,658 --> 00:38:57,668 Uh, and it was, that was part of her, part of her remedy, if you like, or part of 913 00:38:57,668 --> 00:38:59,708 what helped make her get back on track. 914 00:39:00,488 --> 00:39:00,578 Mm-hmm. 915 00:39:03,353 --> 00:39:04,913 . Well, so it, it's easy in retrospect. 916 00:39:04,943 --> 00:39:08,843 It's easy in retrospect, Brett, back, back then, it wasn't, and, and it 917 00:39:08,843 --> 00:39:10,973 wasn't, it wasn't a dream ride at all. 918 00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:11,843 We had a lot of kinda 919 00:39:12,103 --> 00:39:13,143 new, are you getting 920 00:39:13,453 --> 00:39:14,103 a hard bit? 921 00:39:15,293 --> 00:39:19,973 We, we had a lot of like, um, very strong yelling, screaming, conversa. 922 00:39:19,973 --> 00:39:21,863 It wasn't like, oh, wow, we woke up my morning. 923 00:39:22,103 --> 00:39:22,973 You're enough and everything. 924 00:39:22,973 --> 00:39:26,873 Just magically the sun rose and the birds started chirping in the sky. 925 00:39:27,383 --> 00:39:28,313 Rainbows came out. 926 00:39:28,343 --> 00:39:28,493 It. 927 00:39:29,228 --> 00:39:29,738 Like that. 928 00:39:29,738 --> 00:39:32,798 It was, it was, it was, it was tricky. 929 00:39:33,308 --> 00:39:34,808 But we realized we're on the right track. 930 00:39:34,808 --> 00:39:38,108 And you think this is, we know it's hard, but we, we know now we we're on 931 00:39:38,108 --> 00:39:40,658 the right track and we're gonna get out of this, which is really cool. 932 00:39:40,663 --> 00:39:45,218 And it's, I'm so awesomely proud of her being in her HSC graduation, 933 00:39:45,218 --> 00:39:48,068 watching her graduate and her hsc, knowing what she'd been through, 934 00:39:48,068 --> 00:39:50,498 which is unforgettable experience. 935 00:39:50,498 --> 00:39:55,388 I, I can't say how bad I was, but she managed to do that , it was very cool. 936 00:39:56,993 --> 00:39:59,573 For all of you guys listening to the audio, you need to watch 937 00:39:59,573 --> 00:40:00,473 the video on this one too. 938 00:40:00,863 --> 00:40:01,703 Just, just saying. 939 00:40:01,703 --> 00:40:02,453 It'll be on YouTube. 940 00:40:02,933 --> 00:40:03,983 You need to watch the video too. 941 00:40:05,453 --> 00:40:05,633 Yeah. 942 00:40:05,783 --> 00:40:07,043 Belle's very expressive. 943 00:40:07,048 --> 00:40:08,063 Express in the background. 944 00:40:10,063 --> 00:40:12,293 Belle's very expressive in the background as your father talks. 945 00:40:12,563 --> 00:40:12,833 Yeah. 946 00:40:13,833 --> 00:40:16,413 no, you're, you're working through university. 947 00:40:17,193 --> 00:40:19,923 What's you, we talked a little bit during the break. 948 00:40:20,748 --> 00:40:23,208 The next steps for enough is continued expansion. 949 00:40:23,268 --> 00:40:26,358 You're going, you're gonna take this bigger ab 950 00:40:26,448 --> 00:40:27,198 Absolutely, yeah. 951 00:40:27,258 --> 00:40:30,768 Originally it was just people around, um, US and the northern beaches. 952 00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:33,828 We, we used to just, oh, sorry. 953 00:40:33,858 --> 00:40:34,548 It was a question for you. 954 00:40:34,548 --> 00:40:34,848 Was it 955 00:40:35,238 --> 00:40:38,258 question interrupted? 956 00:40:40,338 --> 00:40:42,978 We planning on expanding, that's the next step. 957 00:40:42,978 --> 00:40:45,858 I mean, we've done pretty well within the Sydney community. 958 00:40:45,858 --> 00:40:48,818 We've branched out now to places like Go and further. 959 00:40:49,353 --> 00:40:52,533 Makes no sense to you, . But basically throughout our little 960 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,483 state we've expanded quite a bit. 961 00:40:54,483 --> 00:40:58,683 We've gone over to Perth on the other side of the coast, like getting a few 962 00:40:58,683 --> 00:41:02,733 more customers, and now the next step is to move out, branch out further. 963 00:41:02,738 --> 00:41:05,103 I'm not sure if there will be interest. 964 00:41:05,103 --> 00:41:08,933 Ideally there is, and also coming up with new products that people will find. 965 00:41:09,873 --> 00:41:10,833 A lot more interesting. 966 00:41:10,833 --> 00:41:14,073 Like the whole sweatpants and sweatshirts thing was a big one. 967 00:41:14,373 --> 00:41:15,783 Coffee cups was a big one too. 968 00:41:15,813 --> 00:41:19,113 Moving on to things like stickers or beanies or trucker 969 00:41:19,113 --> 00:41:21,033 hats or that kind of stuff. 970 00:41:21,033 --> 00:41:25,233 We're just looking at what we can do next, and I have so much newfound 971 00:41:25,563 --> 00:41:29,283 motivation now to do something with, so that's really good. 972 00:41:29,283 --> 00:41:31,623 So we're just gonna keep going, see how far we can take it. 973 00:41:31,983 --> 00:41:32,283 Yeah. 974 00:41:33,338 --> 00:41:37,448 Yeah, we, we, we've had small sales, um, like the UK and the us like the 975 00:41:37,448 --> 00:41:42,908 individual sales, and neither Belleer I know anything about like, um, websites 976 00:41:42,908 --> 00:41:45,758 or Shopify or like, uh, print on demand. 977 00:41:45,758 --> 00:41:48,368 So it's a hugely steep learning curve for us. 978 00:41:48,488 --> 00:41:51,698 Every, every step is a big one because I'm not technically 979 00:41:51,703 --> 00:41:53,208 minded at all, nor as Belle. 980 00:41:53,228 --> 00:41:57,218 So we're, we're , so we're, we're learning, we're learning about all this. 981 00:41:58,338 --> 00:42:02,853 , and it just seems like the business or the message has its own momentum, Brent, it 982 00:42:02,853 --> 00:42:04,863 just has its own energy, its own momentum. 983 00:42:05,103 --> 00:42:05,223 Mm-hmm. 984 00:42:05,468 --> 00:42:09,423 . Um, and we're not like pushing it, it just seems to, uh, people are 985 00:42:09,428 --> 00:42:10,623 pulling it from us, if you like. 986 00:42:10,893 --> 00:42:12,513 Um, which is, which is really lovely. 987 00:42:12,518 --> 00:42:17,523 And if we can, if we can help our parents and their kids get that 988 00:42:17,523 --> 00:42:20,193 message, like, the, the parents are enough, the kids are enough. 989 00:42:20,293 --> 00:42:25,293 And, and, and, and even if that sets up a conversation between the 990 00:42:25,293 --> 00:42:26,853 parent and the, and the children. 991 00:42:27,828 --> 00:42:30,588 It's, it's a, it's a great conversation starter, if you 992 00:42:30,588 --> 00:42:32,358 like, in that relationship. 993 00:42:33,048 --> 00:42:34,038 Like, why are you enough? 994 00:42:34,038 --> 00:42:35,868 How are you enough, uh, in your life? 995 00:42:36,078 --> 00:42:36,168 And 996 00:42:36,168 --> 00:42:38,718 also just that conversation about self-worth as well. 997 00:42:38,808 --> 00:42:42,248 Cause yeah, before I really opened to my dad, he had no. 998 00:42:43,653 --> 00:42:48,603 Understanding of like those mental health difficulties or that those experiences of 999 00:42:48,603 --> 00:42:50,343 self dislike and all that kind of stuff. 1000 00:42:50,343 --> 00:42:53,613 He wasn't fully really aware or really certainly not aware that 1001 00:42:53,618 --> 00:42:57,783 I was experiencing it, but also unaware of really the nuances 1002 00:42:57,788 --> 00:42:58,833 of it, where it comes from. 1003 00:42:58,838 --> 00:43:01,893 He had very much an attitude of like, Please up. 1004 00:43:02,373 --> 00:43:03,363 Just be happy. 1005 00:43:03,363 --> 00:43:04,383 What's the problem? 1006 00:43:04,383 --> 00:43:06,153 Like, why just get, be happy. 1007 00:43:06,153 --> 00:43:06,903 Why are you sad? 1008 00:43:06,903 --> 00:43:07,653 Just get up. 1009 00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:08,463 Just get up, get up 1010 00:43:08,633 --> 00:43:09,513 to school and be happy. 1011 00:43:09,603 --> 00:43:10,583 What, what, what's, what's your, 1012 00:43:10,743 --> 00:43:11,403 what's your problem? 1013 00:43:11,408 --> 00:43:12,723 What's, what's challenging about that? 1014 00:43:12,723 --> 00:43:16,713 But now he, it kind of also made him realize that there's, it's 1015 00:43:16,713 --> 00:43:18,033 so much more layered than that. 1016 00:43:18,038 --> 00:43:19,743 And it's like, yes, you can want to go to school. 1017 00:43:19,743 --> 00:43:21,783 Yes, you can want to get up and want to do your stuff. 1018 00:43:22,338 --> 00:43:25,818 When you are experiencing those sorts of feelings, it's so much more layer 1019 00:43:25,818 --> 00:43:30,468 and you need a very different kind of support when you're experiencing that. 1020 00:43:30,473 --> 00:43:34,398 You need your hand to be held and you need to be pushed a little bit, but not shoved. 1021 00:43:34,848 --> 00:43:34,938 Mm-hmm. 1022 00:43:35,183 --> 00:43:38,598 . So I think it's definitely really good to open that line of conversation 1023 00:43:38,603 --> 00:43:41,388 or even to just acknowledge that that is something that your kids 1024 00:43:41,418 --> 00:43:42,828 will most likely be dealing with. 1025 00:43:43,998 --> 00:43:44,208 Yeah. 1026 00:43:44,358 --> 00:43:45,318 Yes, absolutely. 1027 00:43:45,318 --> 00:43:46,818 I think your brand discuss the conversation. 1028 00:43:47,148 --> 00:43:49,848 I think your brand and story has universal appear up. 1029 00:43:51,093 --> 00:43:52,893 I mean, not, not just for kids. 1030 00:43:52,953 --> 00:43:58,053 I, I know so many adults with self-esteem issues. 1031 00:43:59,193 --> 00:43:59,343 Mm-hmm. 1032 00:43:59,583 --> 00:44:02,853 , you, you know, I mean, we're talking adults from like young 1033 00:44:02,853 --> 00:44:07,683 adults to adults older than me who, who have self-esteem issues. 1034 00:44:07,683 --> 00:44:08,043 Right. 1035 00:44:08,043 --> 00:44:12,363 They, they, something happened in their life and there was no one there at the 1036 00:44:12,363 --> 00:44:16,923 time to reinforce the positive or, you know, even, even after they were an 1037 00:44:16,923 --> 00:44:18,813 adult, something, something happened. 1038 00:44:18,813 --> 00:44:19,143 They had a. 1039 00:44:20,523 --> 00:44:24,483 Interaction at some point, but just batter that self-esteem, 1040 00:44:24,843 --> 00:44:26,073 I think as a universal appeal. 1041 00:44:26,073 --> 00:44:28,113 I think you guys can go a long way with this. 1042 00:44:28,773 --> 00:44:29,553 Yeah, well 1043 00:44:29,823 --> 00:44:33,123 it's definitely not just something that like young girls deal with. 1044 00:44:33,123 --> 00:44:36,813 It's definitely a very universal thing, especially as well. 1045 00:44:36,813 --> 00:44:39,963 I wanna expand that conversation further into guys as well. 1046 00:44:40,293 --> 00:44:43,953 Cause even though the conversation is already very stigmatized, it's a lot more. 1047 00:44:45,003 --> 00:44:45,753 Around women. 1048 00:44:45,753 --> 00:44:46,593 There's a lot more. 1049 00:44:46,923 --> 00:44:48,753 You need to love yourself, queen. 1050 00:44:48,843 --> 00:44:51,003 You go put on that dress, buy yourself. 1051 00:44:51,003 --> 00:44:54,543 So far I was very like, the conversation's very open, but guys 1052 00:44:55,383 --> 00:44:57,063 don't, I don't know, I'm not a guy. 1053 00:44:57,303 --> 00:45:01,023 Probably not telling me , but it's like the conversation isn't as 1054 00:45:01,143 --> 00:45:04,383 open and discussions of things like self-worth and self-esteem and how you 1055 00:45:04,388 --> 00:45:09,273 feel about yourself and mental health of far more stigmatized for guys. 1056 00:45:09,273 --> 00:45:16,188 And I think we've been donating to, um, Young women, batier, that sort of stuff. 1057 00:45:16,188 --> 00:45:20,448 But I think it's also, I would really like to branch into, whether it's just young 1058 00:45:20,448 --> 00:45:26,268 men or older men as well, and just talking about how it is okay to have to talk about 1059 00:45:26,268 --> 00:45:30,408 mental health, whether it's good or bad to mention that certain things bothered 1060 00:45:30,408 --> 00:45:33,848 you or you were upset by something or you just having that open dialogue 1061 00:45:33,848 --> 00:45:35,118 I think will be really important in 1062 00:45:35,408 --> 00:45:35,608 the future. 1063 00:45:35,838 --> 00:45:36,328 Yeah. 1064 00:45:37,563 --> 00:45:38,133 I agree. 1065 00:45:38,313 --> 00:45:38,943 Yeah, it's 1066 00:45:39,243 --> 00:45:40,413 something something, yeah. 1067 00:45:40,463 --> 00:45:41,973 A mis a mission for the young boys too. 1068 00:45:42,033 --> 00:45:47,763 Cause from, from what I can, what I can tell, uh, is, uh, it's a bit, it's a 1069 00:45:47,763 --> 00:45:53,523 bit trickier now, um, for a young boy to understand what being masculine is. 1070 00:45:54,183 --> 00:45:58,983 Cause there was old school, like toxic masculinity, which has understandably, 1071 00:45:59,433 --> 00:46:04,593 um, been, uh, been replaced or, or, or, or been been called out if you like. 1072 00:46:04,683 --> 00:46:09,123 And a lot of young men aren't sure what it means to be male, what it means to be 1073 00:46:09,123 --> 00:46:11,583 enough as a, as a, as a young male too. 1074 00:46:11,643 --> 00:46:16,293 Uh, we've been focusing a hundred percent on, on young women and most, but most 1075 00:46:16,293 --> 00:46:18,093 of our customers aren't young women. 1076 00:46:18,093 --> 00:46:20,913 Their parents, um, their parents are young. 1077 00:46:22,218 --> 00:46:25,338 Uh, that want that message themselves, as you are saying, a lot of, a lot of 1078 00:46:25,338 --> 00:46:30,678 adults feel that way and also to help them buying, um, for their, their children too. 1079 00:46:31,068 --> 00:46:33,408 So, um, yeah, I think it's, I think you're right. 1080 00:46:33,413 --> 00:46:35,148 It's a universal message for. 1081 00:46:36,513 --> 00:46:38,343 You know what toxic masculinity is now. 1082 00:46:38,463 --> 00:46:39,273 I'm so proud. 1083 00:46:39,603 --> 00:46:39,903 We had 1084 00:46:39,903 --> 00:46:41,463 this conversation educating 1085 00:46:41,923 --> 00:46:42,043 him. 1086 00:46:42,693 --> 00:46:43,173 Oh, see that? 1087 00:46:43,173 --> 00:46:45,663 That's a whole nother can of worms right there cuz I'll debate that one. 1088 00:46:46,023 --> 00:46:46,503 I die. 1089 00:46:46,623 --> 00:46:47,283 Little baby bird. 1090 00:46:49,033 --> 00:46:55,743 I've very well educated on masculinity and the the male hierarchy and all that stuff. 1091 00:46:56,793 --> 00:46:57,333 Yeah. 1092 00:46:57,338 --> 00:46:57,763 Okay. 1093 00:46:57,763 --> 00:46:59,003 Clearly hasn't been listening. 1094 00:47:01,233 --> 00:47:02,043 . Oh my goodness. 1095 00:47:02,043 --> 00:47:03,213 Yeah, I was gonna say you're, you're. 1096 00:47:04,073 --> 00:47:04,128 Right. 1097 00:47:04,128 --> 00:47:04,968 For show for that. 1098 00:47:04,968 --> 00:47:07,158 We're, we're having that debate all the time. 1099 00:47:08,128 --> 00:47:09,228 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1100 00:47:09,228 --> 00:47:10,668 You guys are focused on young women. 1101 00:47:10,668 --> 00:47:15,558 I'm focused on men changing that conversation for men, but, uh, I, I 1102 00:47:15,558 --> 00:47:20,688 talk to a lot of other men in this spear sphere and not a single man 1103 00:47:20,688 --> 00:47:22,428 defines masculinity the same way. 1104 00:47:23,228 --> 00:47:23,348 Hmm. 1105 00:47:24,018 --> 00:47:24,508 Yeah. 1106 00:47:24,708 --> 00:47:25,278 And, sorry. 1107 00:47:25,368 --> 00:47:28,758 Similarly though, a lot of women perceive femininity differently. 1108 00:47:28,968 --> 00:47:29,148 Mm-hmm. 1109 00:47:29,798 --> 00:47:31,268 , so it's like, it's. 1110 00:47:32,793 --> 00:47:34,083 It's not one size fits all when 1111 00:47:34,083 --> 00:47:34,723 it comes to it. 1112 00:47:34,723 --> 00:47:35,124 No, it's not. 1113 00:47:35,133 --> 00:47:35,493 It's not. 1114 00:47:35,763 --> 00:47:41,463 I think that that, um, that that enough message will, will articulate differently 1115 00:47:41,463 --> 00:47:42,813 depending upon who's receiving it. 1116 00:47:42,873 --> 00:47:46,923 Like, it'll, it'll, it'll have different, I guess, different applications. 1117 00:47:47,193 --> 00:47:50,373 Um, I'm, I'm thinking of more as a, I guess as a reminder, but 1118 00:47:50,378 --> 00:47:51,933 also just a conversation starter. 1119 00:47:52,293 --> 00:47:56,343 People to say, Hey, if that's not telling you something, it's just reminding 1120 00:47:56,343 --> 00:48:00,153 you about something or getting you to start that conversation with somebody. 1121 00:48:00,303 --> 00:48:04,523 Uh, cause if somebody, whether they're an adult or a, um, or a teen, a male 1122 00:48:04,523 --> 00:48:08,853 or a female, I think we, we've all got issues around self-esteem and what, what, 1123 00:48:09,093 --> 00:48:11,043 what, being a, a matter or a female is. 1124 00:48:11,103 --> 00:48:14,913 And if we can help people start that conversation in a healthy way to say, 1125 00:48:14,913 --> 00:48:16,593 Hey, you're enough, or How are you enough? 1126 00:48:16,593 --> 00:48:18,243 Or how you're feeling not enough today. 1127 00:48:18,903 --> 00:48:21,203 Uh, it can just start the convers. 1128 00:48:21,848 --> 00:48:23,558 Uh, we don't, we don't wanna fill in all the dots. 1129 00:48:23,618 --> 00:48:26,648 We've got the whole playbook here, . We've just got the, the 1130 00:48:26,648 --> 00:48:27,968 start of the conversation often. 1131 00:48:27,968 --> 00:48:29,498 That's, it's gotta begin somewhere. 1132 00:48:29,588 --> 00:48:31,838 And for Belle and I, we didn't know where it was gonna end. 1133 00:48:31,898 --> 00:48:36,878 We just had a place that started and then, uh, together. 1134 00:48:37,178 --> 00:48:39,338 Primarily Belle, we just stepped out. 1135 00:48:40,173 --> 00:48:41,523 Stepped out into the future. 1136 00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:46,173 And, uh, that's, that's where she's now, I mean, she's a woman. 1137 00:48:46,293 --> 00:48:50,673 She can speak herself obviously, but she's an early, uh, she's doing really well. 1138 00:48:50,678 --> 00:48:53,553 She's in a relationship with a really fantastic partner. 1139 00:48:54,303 --> 00:49:00,273 Uh, and she has, she's made that, made all those steps, which is as a parent 1140 00:49:00,453 --> 00:49:03,243 and any parents listening, you know, just how proud you are of your kids 1141 00:49:03,243 --> 00:49:06,303 when they're, they're doing something genuinely awesome for themselves. 1142 00:49:06,303 --> 00:49:07,833 It just, it's an indescribable. 1143 00:49:08,928 --> 00:49:10,878 Of how wonderful that feels when it happens. 1144 00:49:11,238 --> 00:49:11,508 I, 1145 00:49:11,508 --> 00:49:15,678 I love, love that you're pursuing your education and your mission 1146 00:49:15,738 --> 00:49:17,208 all side by side by side. 1147 00:49:17,208 --> 00:49:17,448 Just 1148 00:49:19,308 --> 00:49:19,638 . I'm gonna 1149 00:49:19,643 --> 00:49:19,863 do it all. 1150 00:49:19,863 --> 00:49:23,778 It was just, it was always something I always wanted to do, Laura, it 1151 00:49:23,778 --> 00:49:27,408 was always the big dream and I talked myself out of it cuz I was 1152 00:49:27,408 --> 00:49:28,698 just like, no, you can't do that. 1153 00:49:28,848 --> 00:49:29,508 Like, no. 1154 00:49:29,538 --> 00:49:31,668 Like you should pick something else, pick something easier. 1155 00:49:32,028 --> 00:49:33,678 Be like a dental assistant or something. 1156 00:49:33,678 --> 00:49:34,848 Like just do something else. 1157 00:49:35,208 --> 00:49:37,178 Not that their job is, they have to do a lot, but. 1158 00:49:37,718 --> 00:49:37,958 Right. 1159 00:49:38,088 --> 00:49:38,598 Pick something else. 1160 00:49:38,598 --> 00:49:39,138 You can't do that. 1161 00:49:39,138 --> 00:49:39,708 Pick something else. 1162 00:49:39,708 --> 00:49:42,918 And then I sat, I was like, no, actually you can, you definitely 1163 00:49:42,918 --> 00:49:44,358 can do this if you want to. 1164 00:49:44,418 --> 00:49:44,688 Yeah. 1165 00:49:45,018 --> 00:49:48,258 And working there and showing myself that has been really cool 1166 00:49:48,288 --> 00:49:49,638 and doing this at the same time. 1167 00:49:50,208 --> 00:49:52,728 But yeah, businesswoman and student. 1168 00:49:55,098 --> 00:49:58,518 As you guys expand, you gotta, Sarah pointed out, I was looking 1169 00:49:58,518 --> 00:50:00,528 at your site, you guys gotta expand your size range as you. 1170 00:50:02,028 --> 00:50:02,358 Yeah. 1171 00:50:02,358 --> 00:50:02,418 Yeah. 1172 00:50:02,418 --> 00:50:03,588 I'm not that small. 1173 00:50:03,593 --> 00:50:04,738 Couple comments about that. 1174 00:50:05,303 --> 00:50:05,448 Yeah. 1175 00:50:05,448 --> 00:50:08,358 And if Sarah's comes for advice for us, but we're happy to take it. 1176 00:50:08,358 --> 00:50:09,078 Cause uh, 1177 00:50:09,408 --> 00:50:15,138 we, we, I've talked originally when we first started, I wanted to go with extra 1178 00:50:15,143 --> 00:50:20,118 and extra, extra small and large, extra large, extra, extra large and so on. 1179 00:50:20,118 --> 00:50:23,328 But dad, Thought that it would be easier to start with a smaller range 1180 00:50:23,328 --> 00:50:25,938 of sizes, especially we didn't know if we were gonna be successful or not. 1181 00:50:25,938 --> 00:50:26,538 We weren't sure. 1182 00:50:26,808 --> 00:50:27,078 Yeah. 1183 00:50:27,138 --> 00:50:27,468 Well, yeah. 1184 00:50:27,468 --> 00:50:29,568 What the dealio was, and whenever you get a new size, 1185 00:50:29,568 --> 00:50:32,658 you have to, it adds so much more and when you, when you're stocking it. 1186 00:50:32,748 --> 00:50:33,108 Right. 1187 00:50:33,108 --> 00:50:35,898 That's why we talked about print on demand briefly when you're 1188 00:50:36,018 --> 00:50:37,668 actually having to carry stock. 1189 00:50:38,208 --> 00:50:38,358 Right. 1190 00:50:38,363 --> 00:50:40,848 That that gets hefty, that that's pricey after a while. 1191 00:50:41,868 --> 00:50:44,238 All the sizes, all the colors, and 1192 00:50:44,238 --> 00:50:46,158 we weren't sure if it was gonna be successful or not. 1193 00:50:46,158 --> 00:50:48,288 We weren't sure if we were needed to commit in that way 1194 00:50:48,288 --> 00:50:48,558 yet 1195 00:50:48,798 --> 00:50:49,908 we didn't know what we did. 1196 00:50:49,938 --> 00:50:54,108 We had originally had four colors, uh, and five sizes. 1197 00:50:54,798 --> 00:50:56,148 Uh, and that's a lot to carry. 1198 00:50:56,148 --> 00:50:58,548 That's a lot of stock, was the angel investor, if you like, 1199 00:50:58,553 --> 00:50:59,658 to get all those printed. 1200 00:51:00,288 --> 00:51:02,348 And I didn't know whether we'd sell anything. 1201 00:51:02,353 --> 00:51:04,758 I'm thinking, how much can I invest in this? 1202 00:51:04,908 --> 00:51:08,358 But I, I, I love be dearly and I love the idea of, I'm thinking, 1203 00:51:08,388 --> 00:51:09,558 how much can I afford to. 1204 00:51:09,878 --> 00:51:14,168 Have sitting in the garage, and it not sell the back of my mind, I'm 1205 00:51:14,168 --> 00:51:15,368 thinking, can afford to do this. 1206 00:51:16,058 --> 00:51:16,658 Uh, no, I 1207 00:51:16,658 --> 00:51:17,528 understand entirely. 1208 00:51:17,658 --> 00:51:21,188 We, we, we do need to get into drop shipping and we do do need 1209 00:51:21,193 --> 00:51:24,878 to move more into that, in that, um, way of running the business. 1210 00:51:24,878 --> 00:51:26,498 That's something we'll definitely need to do. 1211 00:51:27,758 --> 00:51:27,938 Yeah, 1212 00:51:27,998 --> 00:51:28,488 guys. 1213 00:51:28,658 --> 00:51:29,108 Absolutely. 1214 00:51:29,198 --> 00:51:30,458 Let, let, let's bring this home. 1215 00:51:31,358 --> 00:51:34,858 What is the most important takeaway you want people to hear today? 1216 00:51:37,838 --> 00:51:38,578 You like to 1217 00:51:38,578 --> 00:51:38,858 go first? 1218 00:51:39,188 --> 00:51:43,368 uh, most important people, I'd like to, most important message, um, I would 1219 00:51:43,368 --> 00:51:50,238 say is that, uh, no matter, uh, how you are feeling or how people are around 1220 00:51:50,238 --> 00:51:52,698 you are feeling, um, that you are. 1221 00:51:53,298 --> 00:51:57,528 You are, you are strong enough, you're beautiful enough, you're smart enough, 1222 00:51:57,618 --> 00:52:01,608 um, to deal with the challenges that are in front of you and to reach out 1223 00:52:01,608 --> 00:52:03,288 to someone who may need that message. 1224 00:52:03,768 --> 00:52:07,668 Um, or, uh, if you are the person that needs that message, reach out to 1225 00:52:07,668 --> 00:52:12,528 someone that can help you, uh, really get back, uh, get back on track and, 1226 00:52:12,618 --> 00:52:17,328 uh, be, um, as happy and joyful and productive in your particular life. 1227 00:52:17,598 --> 00:52:21,198 Dancing your own particular drum, um, as you go forward and make 1228 00:52:21,198 --> 00:52:22,428 your unique contribution to the. 1229 00:52:23,133 --> 00:52:24,573 That's what I'd suggest. 1230 00:52:24,603 --> 00:52:28,173 Um, I would probably say your mental health is your life. 1231 00:52:28,173 --> 00:52:30,933 It is the foundation for every other aspect of your existence. 1232 00:52:30,938 --> 00:52:31,833 It's how you perceive. 1233 00:52:32,928 --> 00:52:35,508 Though everyone around you, it's how you treat the people around you. 1234 00:52:35,508 --> 00:52:38,608 It's how you form relationships, how you form a relationship with yourself. 1235 00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:42,018 And if you are struggling with that, it's not something to be ignored. 1236 00:52:42,288 --> 00:52:46,938 It's not something to shove to the side If you really need to pay attention 1237 00:52:46,938 --> 00:52:49,668 to it and ask people for help and let the people around you in on it 1238 00:52:49,668 --> 00:52:52,818 because they will want to help you once they know that you're struggling. 1239 00:52:53,268 --> 00:52:54,798 And even if you're not just every. 1240 00:52:55,848 --> 00:52:58,338 Mental wellbeing, making sure you have an act of self-care 1241 00:52:58,338 --> 00:53:01,428 every single day, or you're doing something to make yourself feel good. 1242 00:53:01,428 --> 00:53:04,188 And whether that's, it doesn't even have to be productive, whether you, 1243 00:53:04,278 --> 00:53:06,048 it actually shouldn't be productive. 1244 00:53:06,348 --> 00:53:10,188 Just something that you do for yourself every day and really continuing to work 1245 00:53:10,188 --> 00:53:13,488 on that relationship with yourself and commit yourself to it in the same way 1246 00:53:13,493 --> 00:53:16,848 you would to another person, I think is probably the most important thing. 1247 00:53:17,808 --> 00:53:18,308 All right. 1248 00:53:18,308 --> 00:53:19,308 You've got the website. 1249 00:53:19,848 --> 00:53:20,468 You are. 1250 00:53:21,183 --> 00:53:22,353 Do you guys do social media? 1251 00:53:22,353 --> 00:53:24,363 Just is Nuff brand on Instagram or something? 1252 00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:25,093 Instagram 1253 00:53:25,098 --> 00:53:25,563 and Facebook. 1254 00:53:25,743 --> 00:53:26,643 Instagram and Facebook. 1255 00:53:26,643 --> 00:53:27,423 Same deal. 1256 00:53:27,483 --> 00:53:29,133 Uh, you are enough. 1257 00:53:29,133 --> 00:53:29,343 Why? 1258 00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:31,053 O U R A N U Double F. 1259 00:53:31,203 --> 00:53:32,773 You're enough Double F. 1260 00:53:35,463 --> 00:53:35,913 That's okay. 1261 00:53:35,913 --> 00:53:36,753 The accents come through. 1262 00:53:36,753 --> 00:53:37,203 It's great. 1263 00:53:37,803 --> 00:53:39,363 Americans love the Australian accent. 1264 00:53:39,363 --> 00:53:40,413 You guys having the best accent? 1265 00:53:40,773 --> 00:53:40,933 No. 1266 00:53:40,933 --> 00:53:41,334 I've had that 1267 00:53:42,678 --> 00:53:42,948 . Yeah. 1268 00:53:43,338 --> 00:53:47,698 Uh, you might have like the, can you get this translated for your American ? Yeah. 1269 00:53:47,698 --> 00:53:48,498 Subtitles at the bottom. 1270 00:53:48,708 --> 00:53:49,368 Subtitles 1271 00:53:49,818 --> 00:53:50,928 back Hebrew language. 1272 00:53:50,958 --> 00:53:54,918 Trust me, when I, when I edit the subtitles, it's, it's always exciting 1273 00:53:55,098 --> 00:53:57,288 going across with, uh, Different. 1274 00:53:57,348 --> 00:53:58,188 Oh, what it, thanks, 1275 00:53:59,898 --> 00:54:04,158 It wasn't actually like, uh, Australian is not as difficult for 1276 00:54:04,158 --> 00:54:06,618 my software to pull the subtitles. 1277 00:54:06,678 --> 00:54:06,828 Mm-hmm. 1278 00:54:07,608 --> 00:54:12,468 , uh, I interviewed a guy who was up in Scotland. 1279 00:54:13,683 --> 00:54:16,533 And ah, it, it had a filled day with him. 1280 00:54:16,683 --> 00:54:17,963 Like ? Yeah. 1281 00:54:18,113 --> 00:54:19,743 Like I should just type this all by hand. 1282 00:54:19,743 --> 00:54:21,003 I shouldn't even try the software. 1283 00:54:21,053 --> 00:54:22,043 No, you're like, I give up. 1284 00:54:22,363 --> 00:54:26,673 Honestly, people that live in the north of England that got very thick 1285 00:54:26,673 --> 00:54:28,713 accents, they're very hard to understand. 1286 00:54:28,833 --> 00:54:29,703 Yeah, it's very true. 1287 00:54:30,273 --> 00:54:35,253 But hey, I, I can't, I'm a southerner by birth, so I can tell you some 1288 00:54:35,253 --> 00:54:38,583 of my countrymen have just as bad of accidents to deal with. 1289 00:54:39,438 --> 00:54:42,678 As far as like software translating and actually picking up and 1290 00:54:42,678 --> 00:54:44,268 transcripting it the computer. 1291 00:54:44,358 --> 00:54:45,258 It's really entertaining. 1292 00:54:45,348 --> 00:54:49,608 Sometimes though, what it comes up with, it's like you listen to 1293 00:54:49,608 --> 00:54:52,338 the audio and you look at how it, it transcribed it and you're like, 1294 00:54:54,908 --> 00:54:56,838 . That's not how people talk, but 1295 00:54:56,838 --> 00:54:57,118 okay. 1296 00:54:58,068 --> 00:55:01,158 . I'm not sure how he got that from that, but Okay. 1297 00:55:02,018 --> 00:55:02,438 . But 1298 00:55:02,443 --> 00:55:02,988 he tried 1299 00:55:02,988 --> 00:55:04,608 Good job, . Exactly right. 1300 00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:07,098 He gave it his best shot, guys. 1301 00:55:08,883 --> 00:55:13,563 You are enough that that is, I hope you take this message to heart. 1302 00:55:14,733 --> 00:55:15,733 Go support Belle. 1303 00:55:16,083 --> 00:55:17,463 Go go to you're enough. 1304 00:55:17,613 --> 00:55:21,843 U R Y O u r a n u f f.com. 1305 00:55:23,223 --> 00:55:24,003 Check it out. 1306 00:55:24,213 --> 00:55:25,353 They're going to be expanding. 1307 00:55:25,413 --> 00:55:29,223 Those of us who are a little bigger, I'm a two x, are waiting till you guys expand, 1308 00:55:29,313 --> 00:55:31,173 but when you get there, you let me know. 1309 00:55:31,173 --> 00:55:32,253 Well, I'm gonna buy a shirt. 1310 00:55:33,063 --> 00:55:33,513 Okay. 1311 00:55:33,513 --> 00:55:37,083 Usually we'll be the first to get one . But, uh, guys, guys, go. 1312 00:55:38,193 --> 00:55:42,783 We all need to believe in ourselves, but we all know people in our lives 1313 00:55:42,783 --> 00:55:44,673 who don't believe in themselves. 1314 00:55:45,693 --> 00:55:50,043 This is a valid message, and this, this is an amazing story. 1315 00:55:50,048 --> 00:55:57,573 You two, this is, I'm, I'm so amazed when a young person chooses to take 1316 00:55:57,573 --> 00:55:59,193 difficulties and go, you know what? 1317 00:55:59,703 --> 00:56:02,883 I'm not only going to survive, I'm gonna thrive. 1318 00:56:03,393 --> 00:56:04,733 I, I'm going to go forward. 1319 00:56:05,433 --> 00:56:07,953 And I'm gonna thrive and I'm gonna change the world because other 1320 00:56:07,953 --> 00:56:10,173 people need to know this too. 1321 00:56:11,043 --> 00:56:12,793 So, hats off to you Belle. 1322 00:56:12,813 --> 00:56:13,863 This is awesome. 1323 00:56:13,863 --> 00:56:16,803 This undertaking that you and your dad have going together is very cool. 1324 00:56:17,403 --> 00:56:18,273 Uh, thank you. 1325 00:56:18,453 --> 00:56:22,863 I, I'm always excited to see parents and, and children working together. 1326 00:56:23,343 --> 00:56:24,873 And sorry about the children comment. 1327 00:56:24,873 --> 00:56:26,223 I know you're in university, but. 1328 00:56:28,548 --> 00:56:29,988 You'll always be your dad's little girl. 1329 00:56:30,138 --> 00:56:31,458 He'll always be your dad's little girl. 1330 00:56:31,848 --> 00:56:34,668 I told my daughters that all the time, like, yeah, when you're 45, 1331 00:56:34,668 --> 00:56:35,628 you're still gonna be my baby. 1332 00:56:35,628 --> 00:56:40,128 It's, it's just how it is, . But thank you for taking the time to share 1333 00:56:40,128 --> 00:56:42,438 your story with our audience guys. 1334 00:56:42,828 --> 00:56:44,028 Merry Christmas. 1335 00:56:44,433 --> 00:56:47,043 I hope this story warms your heart as much as it does mine. 1336 00:56:47,493 --> 00:56:49,983 As always, be better tomorrow because what you do today and 1337 00:56:49,983 --> 00:56:50,823 we'll see you on the next one. 1338 00:56:51,513 --> 00:56:54,033 This has been the Fable Man Podcast. 1339 00:56:54,633 --> 00:56:57,873 Your home for everything, man, husband, and father. 1340 00:56:58,773 --> 00:57:00,453 Be sure to subscribe so you don't 1341 00:57:00,453 --> 00:57:01,053 miss a show. 1342 00:57:01,953 --> 00:57:09,153 Head over to www.thefallibleman.com for more content and get your own Fallible 1343 00:57:09,153 --> 00:57:09,783 man gear.