The Five F’s, Vulnerability, Priorates and Making Change | Down the Rabbit Hole with Lifestyle Mentor Dai Manuel

1 00:00:01,290 --> 00:00:02,910 Here's the million dollar question. 2 00:00:03,390 --> 00:00:07,050 How do men like us reach our full potential and grow into the men we 3 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:11,190 dream of being while taking care of our responsibilities, working, 4 00:00:11,370 --> 00:00:15,870 being good husbands, fathers, and still take care of ourselves? 5 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,450 That's the question in this podcast. 6 00:00:18,750 --> 00:00:20,040 We'll help you with those answers. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,950 My name is Brent and welcome to the Fallible Man Podcast. 8 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:25,500 Welcome to Fall, Bloom n Podcast. 9 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:27,450 Your home for all things, man, husband, and father. 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,090 Big shout out to the fallible nation that keeps us going and 11 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:31,200 makes things like this possible. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,540 And a warm welcome to our first time listeners. 13 00:00:33,540 --> 00:00:35,790 Thank you for sharing your time and attention with us. 14 00:00:36,089 --> 00:00:38,040 We know you have a lot of options and we're thrilled 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,030 that you're here with us today. 16 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:43,709 My name is Brent, and today my special guest is Dai Manuel coach, mentor, 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,930 author, speaker, and so much more. 18 00:00:46,290 --> 00:00:49,680 In today's show, we're gonna touch on the five Fs of men and vulnerability 19 00:00:49,685 --> 00:00:51,239 and being on the good side of change. 20 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:51,779 Dai. 21 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:53,150 Welcome to the show. 22 00:00:53,860 --> 00:00:55,905 Whohoo, Brent, thank you. 23 00:00:56,265 --> 00:00:57,855 Thank you for the opportunity to be here. 24 00:00:58,125 --> 00:01:00,834 I had the lovely opportunity of being at the conference. 25 00:01:00,901 --> 00:01:03,709 Gosh, it feels like it was yesterday, but I know it was months ago. 26 00:01:04,129 --> 00:01:07,964 And it's just very cool to now circle up and reconnect in this format. 27 00:01:08,004 --> 00:01:08,994 Anyways, thank you. 28 00:01:09,294 --> 00:01:09,684 It's an honor 29 00:01:09,684 --> 00:01:10,044 to be here. 30 00:01:10,051 --> 00:01:12,811 And I'm excited cuz you're gonna be at our next conference in February. 31 00:01:12,861 --> 00:01:13,181 Yeah. 32 00:01:13,951 --> 00:01:17,101 And so I'm super excited you guys, if you enjoy the podcast. 33 00:01:18,031 --> 00:01:22,231 Come meet Dai in person in February at the Phoenix Conference. 34 00:01:22,231 --> 00:01:23,371 February 10th and 11th. 35 00:01:23,821 --> 00:01:28,251 Tickets are on sale on the website, www.fallibleman.com/thephoenix. 36 00:01:28,621 --> 00:01:31,201 Right now early bridge specials are still going and you'll get to hang 37 00:01:31,201 --> 00:01:34,591 out more with Dai and trust me guys, if you enjoy him on the podcast, 38 00:01:34,591 --> 00:01:36,481 he is even more fun in person. 39 00:01:37,201 --> 00:01:40,591 We had a great time when he was here for the last conference Dai. 40 00:01:40,801 --> 00:01:42,121 I don't do the big introductions. 41 00:01:42,121 --> 00:01:43,821 So tell us in your own words, who is. 42 00:01:44,391 --> 00:01:45,071 Dai Manuel 43 00:01:45,286 --> 00:01:45,776 , geez. 44 00:01:45,866 --> 00:01:46,196 Wow. 45 00:01:46,196 --> 00:01:47,516 Let's just start with the easy question. 46 00:01:47,546 --> 00:01:47,876 Okay? 47 00:01:48,056 --> 00:01:49,526 Uh, no, I'm just joking. 48 00:01:49,564 --> 00:01:52,682 Listen, Dai Manuel, first off, let's just get the elephant outta the 49 00:01:52,687 --> 00:01:53,972 room here, or identify the elephant. 50 00:01:54,122 --> 00:01:55,742 It's a weird name, totally weird name. 51 00:01:56,022 --> 00:01:57,512 Dai is Welsh for David. 52 00:01:58,382 --> 00:02:02,402 Okay, Manuel is Portuguese Dai Manuel, so Welsh and Portuguese 53 00:02:02,402 --> 00:02:03,069 says don't worry about it. 54 00:02:03,069 --> 00:02:03,519 I'm Canadian. 55 00:02:03,669 --> 00:02:03,879 Okay. 56 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:04,209 That's it. 57 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:04,959 That's all I gotta say. 58 00:02:05,259 --> 00:02:08,806 Now, , as far as who am I, as I always like to lead off. 59 00:02:08,864 --> 00:02:10,754 First and foremost, I'm a. 60 00:02:11,494 --> 00:02:13,900 Dad of two teenage girls, they're now oh my gosh. 61 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:16,090 Almost gonna be 20 and 18 in the next few months. 62 00:02:16,690 --> 00:02:17,020 Nice. 63 00:02:17,110 --> 00:02:20,215 This feels weird even saying that . But I've got two beautiful girls 64 00:02:20,245 --> 00:02:23,335 Chardonnay and Bree, that's wine and cheese for those that figured it out. 65 00:02:23,396 --> 00:02:26,931 And then I've been dating my wife for 22, almost 23 years. 66 00:02:27,331 --> 00:02:29,487 And that's, really, if I have to sell up, who am I? 67 00:02:29,504 --> 00:02:30,478 That's a big part of it. 68 00:02:30,478 --> 00:02:32,068 That is really who, the why. 69 00:02:32,068 --> 00:02:32,578 The what? 70 00:02:32,578 --> 00:02:33,118 The how. 71 00:02:33,171 --> 00:02:33,911 They're my everything. 72 00:02:34,801 --> 00:02:38,426 Outside of that, for my own personal, I guess, how would I identify? 73 00:02:38,431 --> 00:02:38,796 Just me. 74 00:02:38,831 --> 00:02:41,406 I'm someone that just loves helping people get outta their own way. 75 00:02:42,396 --> 00:02:46,536 I have a natural ability to look in people and see the potential that 76 00:02:46,536 --> 00:02:49,926 they unfortunately can't see in themselves based on life circumstances. 77 00:02:50,496 --> 00:02:52,616 Let's be honest, a lot of us lose that edge. 78 00:02:53,256 --> 00:02:55,962 That edge when it comes to how we interpret our life and 79 00:02:55,962 --> 00:02:57,402 how we show up for our life. 80 00:02:57,428 --> 00:02:58,466 And it's tough, right? 81 00:02:58,466 --> 00:03:00,566 When you fall off that path, how do you get back on? 82 00:03:00,566 --> 00:03:03,056 And sometimes it's nice just to know that there's somebody in your corner 83 00:03:03,356 --> 00:03:07,106 that empathetically can relate and say, You know what, You're not alone. 84 00:03:07,586 --> 00:03:08,186 It's okay. 85 00:03:09,176 --> 00:03:09,716 And that's it. 86 00:03:09,746 --> 00:03:13,796 So every day I get to do cool stuff that allows me to align with that and 87 00:03:13,796 --> 00:03:15,056 help other people work through that. 88 00:03:15,056 --> 00:03:17,516 So that's who I am in a nutshell. 89 00:03:17,575 --> 00:03:19,429 think one of the things that stood. 90 00:03:19,465 --> 00:03:22,806 When we were first meeting each other through the software we used to connect 91 00:03:22,806 --> 00:03:26,736 with other podcasters is, I love the fact that one of the top things you 92 00:03:26,736 --> 00:03:31,126 list is that you've been dating your wife for 23 years now, that is just. 93 00:03:32,496 --> 00:03:34,726 I love the priorities on your I. 94 00:03:34,726 --> 00:03:36,035 Cause get to talk to a lot of people. 95 00:03:36,035 --> 00:03:39,455 That's one of the great things about being podcasters, you know, no doubt is 96 00:03:39,455 --> 00:03:41,015 just the cool people you get to meet. 97 00:03:41,075 --> 00:03:45,475 But I talk to a lot of people and right there, that is priority number one 98 00:03:45,475 --> 00:03:47,875 is I'm a dad and I'm dating my wife. 99 00:03:48,655 --> 00:03:49,795 It's like, bam. 100 00:03:51,065 --> 00:03:54,295 Clarity . No, thanks. 101 00:03:54,295 --> 00:03:58,135 You were, are the COO of a large scale business. 102 00:03:58,555 --> 00:03:58,885 Mm-hmm. 103 00:04:00,145 --> 00:04:03,245 . And then you started getting into some other spaces. 104 00:04:03,245 --> 00:04:03,943 Why did you change? 105 00:04:03,943 --> 00:04:07,567 Most people would be like, Wait that's, People spend their whole lives 106 00:04:07,567 --> 00:04:09,847 trying to get to those levels Yeah. 107 00:04:09,997 --> 00:04:10,477 Positions. 108 00:04:10,482 --> 00:04:10,537 Yeah. 109 00:04:10,897 --> 00:04:12,047 Why the change? 110 00:04:12,062 --> 00:04:14,972 It's, you've actually kind of had the answer within the question. 111 00:04:15,152 --> 00:04:17,942 And what I mean by that is when you ask their brand, I think this is so 112 00:04:17,942 --> 00:04:20,359 appropriate and I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that are like 113 00:04:20,459 --> 00:04:26,039 on their edge, like, Yeah, why do we pursue to begin with those levels? 114 00:04:26,078 --> 00:04:27,784 Like the why, like why did we get started? 115 00:04:27,784 --> 00:04:32,134 And if I'm perfectly honest with you, Bryan ego drove me to 116 00:04:32,134 --> 00:04:33,554 get started and to pursue that. 117 00:04:33,554 --> 00:04:35,887 Success is highly subjective. 118 00:04:36,757 --> 00:04:41,527 And yet I had this knack of trying to qualify and quantify success, 119 00:04:41,557 --> 00:04:45,731 especially the quantification, meaning that, I would look at accolades and 120 00:04:45,731 --> 00:04:50,561 affirmations and praise, but this also on top of that, I'd be looking 121 00:04:50,566 --> 00:04:54,311 at money in the bank, Having the cars, having the home, having the toys. 122 00:04:54,311 --> 00:04:56,951 Like for me, that's what I believe success was. 123 00:04:56,951 --> 00:05:01,841 And so from my early twenties into my early thirties, that's what I accumulated. 124 00:05:01,846 --> 00:05:04,271 I pursued a lot of that, thinking that it was gonna fulfill 125 00:05:04,271 --> 00:05:06,731 me, make me feel successful. 126 00:05:07,271 --> 00:05:12,251 But here's the thing, the more I acquired, the more that I accomplished, 127 00:05:13,811 --> 00:05:15,371 the more unfulfilled I felt. 128 00:05:17,606 --> 00:05:19,196 And it's because I was living in the ego man. 129 00:05:19,286 --> 00:05:23,036 I was living, looking for something to satisfy me outside me without 130 00:05:23,036 --> 00:05:26,156 saying, You know what, maybe I gotta go inward to figure this stuff out. 131 00:05:27,236 --> 00:05:28,946 Cause that's where the massive disconnect was. 132 00:05:28,964 --> 00:05:32,568 I'd been someone, I'd come from a fitness and wellness industry back a background. 133 00:05:33,018 --> 00:05:35,808 And then let's be fair fitness industry. 134 00:05:35,808 --> 00:05:36,888 I mean, just go on Instagram. 135 00:05:36,888 --> 00:05:38,178 It's a lot of smoke and mirrors. 136 00:05:38,838 --> 00:05:42,003 It's a lot of filtering and it's highly cur. 137 00:05:43,023 --> 00:05:46,837 But it's also, people trying to show certain physiques and certain ideas 138 00:05:46,837 --> 00:05:49,300 and it's a noisy space and it's confusing and you have to start to 139 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:50,650 question what's real and what's not. 140 00:05:52,210 --> 00:05:53,740 I didn't wanna be a part of that anymore. 141 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:55,990 I had grown, I had evolved. 142 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:59,170 I had made some big massive changes, which we might get into today. 143 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:04,520 And in going through that, I realized the path that I was on for 17 years. 144 00:06:04,535 --> 00:06:06,905 Literally co-founding a company, building it to eight figures a. 145 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:09,320 Thinking that, Wow, this is it. 146 00:06:09,410 --> 00:06:10,760 This is what I'm meant to be doing the rest of my life. 147 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,410 But the more success as I was quantifying it, I achieved, the 148 00:06:15,410 --> 00:06:19,880 more I felt disconnected and unhappy, unfulfilled, lacking joy. 149 00:06:20,930 --> 00:06:23,750 So I did the hard thing, the real hard thing. 150 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,360 I quit , you know, I, I quit a 17 year career. 151 00:06:29,390 --> 00:06:31,520 Very stable, very safe. 152 00:06:32,795 --> 00:06:37,205 And I, I ended up writing a book during that final few months before I left. 153 00:06:37,265 --> 00:06:40,909 And it was published about four months after I exited outta that business. 154 00:06:41,269 --> 00:06:43,019 And it opened up a world of opportunity. 155 00:06:43,019 --> 00:06:44,219 Cause I, I wanted to create a book. 156 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,889 Oh, thank you for sharing that, Brent a book that would help individuals. 157 00:06:46,894 --> 00:06:51,479 Cause, being in fitness literally for 28 years now, I've heard it all. 158 00:06:52,229 --> 00:06:54,629 Every excuse you can give it to me and I've probably heard it. 159 00:06:54,749 --> 00:06:55,119 Okay. 160 00:06:55,146 --> 00:06:57,606 And so my thing was like, I know it's just all about mindset. 161 00:06:57,606 --> 00:06:58,176 It's our mental. 162 00:06:58,881 --> 00:07:01,791 It's our perception on not only the world that we live, but also 163 00:07:01,791 --> 00:07:03,081 how we see ourselves in that world. 164 00:07:03,561 --> 00:07:07,761 And I knew if I could help make an impact and influence people to shift 165 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:09,681 that perspective only a half a degree. 166 00:07:09,681 --> 00:07:13,491 I'm not saying like a full 180 here, like half a degree. 167 00:07:14,031 --> 00:07:16,401 And I know if they can commit to doing that half a degree 168 00:07:16,401 --> 00:07:18,201 for, let's just say 28 days. 169 00:07:18,201 --> 00:07:19,071 Mm-hmm. 170 00:07:19,466 --> 00:07:21,721 , they're gonna end up in a very different place than where they. 171 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:23,700 And I like to use the Ocean Liners as an example. 172 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:27,445 If, you said a trajectory, you change that degree by half a degree and you continue 173 00:07:27,445 --> 00:07:32,335 to on it for 12 hours, by the end of 12 hours, you are massively off course. 174 00:07:33,835 --> 00:07:37,495 This also works in a positive way though, if we wanna recalibrate and reconfigure 175 00:07:37,585 --> 00:07:38,785 the direction that we have in life. 176 00:07:39,385 --> 00:07:41,736 And so that's what I had to do with my own life first though, cause 177 00:07:41,765 --> 00:07:44,165 I needed to get that clarity and to figure out what do I wanna do? 178 00:07:44,165 --> 00:07:46,745 What makes you feel fulfilled, happy, and joyful every. 179 00:07:47,885 --> 00:07:48,995 And then I just got to work. 180 00:07:49,445 --> 00:07:49,955 Okay. 181 00:07:50,075 --> 00:07:51,605 And I was filled with a lot of fear. 182 00:07:51,665 --> 00:07:51,965 Okay? 183 00:07:52,235 --> 00:07:53,525 Bottom line, done. 184 00:07:53,525 --> 00:07:54,335 Lots of fear. 185 00:07:54,485 --> 00:07:55,955 It was intimidating, it was scary. 186 00:07:56,405 --> 00:07:59,885 But thankfully my family was by my side and they were like, You know what? 187 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:00,665 Let's do this. 188 00:08:00,875 --> 00:08:01,745 You can do this. 189 00:08:02,105 --> 00:08:03,005 We're behind you. 190 00:08:03,905 --> 00:08:06,725 And that's what allowed me to endure the really hard days. 191 00:08:06,861 --> 00:08:08,301 Those days where you question everything. 192 00:08:08,391 --> 00:08:11,121 And thank goodness I have them in my life, and that's what allows me to endure. 193 00:08:11,811 --> 00:08:13,941 Hence, what's my two most important things? 194 00:08:13,941 --> 00:08:14,481 That's in my by. 195 00:08:15,396 --> 00:08:19,446 I'm a dad, and I'm dating my wife, cuz I know if I got those things figured out, 196 00:08:19,836 --> 00:08:21,306 hey, whatever else I do, it's just fun. 197 00:08:21,516 --> 00:08:21,756 You know? 198 00:08:21,756 --> 00:08:22,266 It's just fun. 199 00:08:23,076 --> 00:08:23,826 Now see, a 200 00:08:23,831 --> 00:08:25,386 lot of guys struggle, right? 201 00:08:25,386 --> 00:08:28,264 Cause I've told people I've talked to, look I talk to people who have 202 00:08:28,414 --> 00:08:32,584 made it by all measures of quote unquote, what we call success. 203 00:08:32,864 --> 00:08:33,214 Mm. 204 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:36,334 And I've talked to a lot of guys who have quote unquote 205 00:08:36,334 --> 00:08:38,164 made it, who went, got there. 206 00:08:39,334 --> 00:08:42,064 Uh, this, this is not what I thought it was. 207 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:45,994 This is not what makes my life good or happy. 208 00:08:46,744 --> 00:08:48,269 And for guys who are struggling, right? 209 00:08:48,269 --> 00:08:50,519 Cause we're doing okay. 210 00:08:50,669 --> 00:08:52,859 I'm not rich by any means, but Sarah and I do okay. 211 00:08:53,909 --> 00:08:56,806 But we had a lot of years where we're, we still had some 212 00:08:56,806 --> 00:08:58,186 back deaths for a long time. 213 00:08:58,186 --> 00:09:02,326 That took years to pay off because for a lot of years we were struggling from day. 214 00:09:03,436 --> 00:09:07,636 And so there are a lot of guys who are in that place in their lives right now who 215 00:09:08,116 --> 00:09:11,356 hear somebody say something like that, and they're like, You're outta your mind. 216 00:09:12,436 --> 00:09:15,136 There's money does buy happiness. 217 00:09:15,136 --> 00:09:15,736 They lie. 218 00:09:15,801 --> 00:09:19,641 It, Well, yeah it buys a lot of things, but it also, 219 00:09:21,141 --> 00:09:23,491 But Brent, just real quick, happiness is temporary. 220 00:09:23,496 --> 00:09:24,331 Joy is permanent. 221 00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:25,638 And so you gotta keep that in mind. 222 00:09:25,638 --> 00:09:28,738 Yes, money will buy you happiness, but it's short. 223 00:09:29,838 --> 00:09:31,308 And that's why we're never satisfied. 224 00:09:32,298 --> 00:09:33,408 You know, we're never satisfied. 225 00:09:34,038 --> 00:09:36,408 There's always that one more thing, one more thing, one more thing. 226 00:09:37,168 --> 00:09:40,258 And we're also very good at leveraging our future to pay for the now. 227 00:09:40,282 --> 00:09:43,585 And it, when you get that into focus and you really understand that concept, 228 00:09:43,975 --> 00:09:46,757 it's a amount of just a little bit of self-control, a little bit of 229 00:09:46,757 --> 00:09:48,107 discipline to bring into focus. 230 00:09:48,107 --> 00:09:48,977 What truly matters. 231 00:09:48,977 --> 00:09:51,527 And what I often challenge people on when I'm working with men on this 232 00:09:51,527 --> 00:09:55,277 especially, is like, bring that into focus because all of a sudden you. 233 00:09:56,162 --> 00:09:56,432 Wow. 234 00:09:56,432 --> 00:09:58,622 It's not only very accessible and it's here right now. 235 00:09:59,192 --> 00:10:00,222 It doesn't cost anything. 236 00:10:00,273 --> 00:10:00,933 It just doesn't. 237 00:10:01,533 --> 00:10:03,723 And yet the fulfillment we get from some people just question. 238 00:10:03,723 --> 00:10:05,823 How can I be feeling this way and achieve this? 239 00:10:06,393 --> 00:10:07,563 And it didn't cost me anything. 240 00:10:07,568 --> 00:10:11,548 Cuz it, it just so different from what we actually have grown up thinking, so it's 241 00:10:11,612 --> 00:10:13,821 it's hard for us to just commit to that. 242 00:10:13,821 --> 00:10:17,230 And I can speak to this very, personally cuz I didn't start making 243 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,480 these kind of pivots in my life until I was in my early thirties. 244 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,520 And only cuz I got to a. 245 00:10:21,385 --> 00:10:25,435 Where I was threatened to lose everything that mattered to me, and it was based 246 00:10:25,435 --> 00:10:29,037 on my abuse of alcohol and narcotics, and just that that my way of coping with 247 00:10:29,037 --> 00:10:30,777 stress, anxiety, and overwhelming life. 248 00:10:30,777 --> 00:10:31,377 That was it. 249 00:10:31,677 --> 00:10:35,600 I went to a bottle and it, massive, almost 13 years to a day, I made a decision 250 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,450 to go one month, or sorry, one year without alcohol, and that one year's now 251 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:42,620 turned into 13 years and a lifestyle and opened up so many opportunities for me. 252 00:10:43,205 --> 00:10:46,745 But I had to get to the place where I was like, not only on rock bottom, but 253 00:10:46,745 --> 00:10:51,425 I was actually under the rock in rock bottom with my feet sticking out, my hands 254 00:10:51,425 --> 00:10:56,059 sticking out, and really just stuck and afraid and uncertain and so anyways, yeah, 255 00:10:56,064 --> 00:10:58,429 that was, I just wanted to throw that in there cuz I, I love what you're saying, 256 00:10:58,434 --> 00:11:00,559 but it's like that little piece right? 257 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:01,459 That we sometimes forget 258 00:11:01,487 --> 00:11:02,321 that's the piece we miss. 259 00:11:02,326 --> 00:11:02,631 Yeah, Yeah. 260 00:11:02,631 --> 00:11:02,911 That's, yeah. 261 00:11:02,911 --> 00:11:03,641 That's the kinda, Yeah. 262 00:11:03,821 --> 00:11:07,271 Most of us don't separate happiness and joy. 263 00:11:07,571 --> 00:11:07,841 Yeah. 264 00:11:07,901 --> 00:11:08,141 Right. 265 00:11:08,169 --> 00:11:09,884 We see it as something together. 266 00:11:10,594 --> 00:11:11,614 We see it as one and the same. 267 00:11:11,614 --> 00:11:16,114 We, most people don't understand there's a really big, massive difference. 268 00:11:16,324 --> 00:11:17,644 Massive between the two. 269 00:11:18,064 --> 00:11:18,334 Yeah. 270 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:22,174 And so, no, I'm really glad you clarified that, reiterated on that point. 271 00:11:22,174 --> 00:11:27,904 Cause it is, it's shocking how many people don't separate those things. 272 00:11:27,931 --> 00:11:31,471 And I wish there was a good explanation as to why , other than we're just not taught 273 00:11:31,471 --> 00:11:32,971 to separate those things in this cultures. 274 00:11:33,181 --> 00:11:34,201 That's, I just think that's it. 275 00:11:34,201 --> 00:11:35,701 It just doesn't come up from conversation. 276 00:11:35,701 --> 00:11:36,991 It's not like we're setting out. 277 00:11:36,991 --> 00:11:42,575 I think we're very quick to just believe that, pick up the source and all these 278 00:11:42,575 --> 00:11:45,575 words that are alike each other, They must all mean the same thing, but they don't. 279 00:11:46,625 --> 00:11:48,635 And the English language doesn't do us any favors on this. 280 00:11:48,702 --> 00:11:50,725 The English language is really confusing, to be honest. 281 00:11:50,730 --> 00:11:53,878 And yeah, I'd hate to be someone that had to learn it as a second or even a third 282 00:11:53,878 --> 00:11:56,977 language cuz it's like it was hard enough to learn it as my first language . That 283 00:11:56,982 --> 00:11:59,918 being said, I think it's our understanding and our relationship with words and, 284 00:11:59,970 --> 00:12:03,775 like my TEDx top last year was all about vulnerability and that understanding that 285 00:12:04,195 --> 00:12:07,345 vulnerability is actually a skill and it's not a negative word with negative 286 00:12:07,345 --> 00:12:09,505 connotations unless you apply that. 287 00:12:09,591 --> 00:12:11,241 We give the meaning to things. 288 00:12:11,297 --> 00:12:12,507 Are you familiar with Victor Frankel? 289 00:12:12,536 --> 00:12:16,276 He wrote Men Search for Meaning, And in it he talks about this idea, right? 290 00:12:16,276 --> 00:12:19,416 This idea that, even to ask the question, So what's the meaning of life? 291 00:12:20,076 --> 00:12:21,396 It's one highly subjective. 292 00:12:21,396 --> 00:12:25,926 And two, the oxymoron of that question is whatever answer you give is correct. 293 00:12:26,946 --> 00:12:30,296 Because we give the meaning, we give it. 294 00:12:30,363 --> 00:12:31,010 It's 42. 295 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:31,910 We all know this. 296 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:32,270 Yeah. 297 00:12:32,270 --> 00:12:32,810 42. 298 00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:34,580 I love that Hitchhiker's guy, the gala. 299 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:35,090 It's lovely. 300 00:12:35,148 --> 00:12:35,951 I love dunk sas. 301 00:12:35,968 --> 00:12:37,788 But yeah, it's so true, right? 302 00:12:37,788 --> 00:12:38,838 Like it's just, it's so true. 303 00:12:38,838 --> 00:12:40,068 So it's, yeah. 304 00:12:40,068 --> 00:12:41,367 It, life's so funny, right? 305 00:12:41,373 --> 00:12:41,949 is funny. 306 00:12:41,949 --> 00:12:45,779 It, it is pretty easy to stand back and just laugh at it all, but in a 307 00:12:45,779 --> 00:12:48,823 real positive way and be like, I just can't take this so darn seriously. 308 00:12:49,243 --> 00:12:54,313 Cause one, you have a lot more fun and you have better conversations and to be quite. 309 00:12:55,228 --> 00:12:57,199 You tend to live a healthier, longer life, And then you don't 310 00:12:57,199 --> 00:12:58,099 have to take my word on that. 311 00:12:58,099 --> 00:12:58,789 Science proves it 312 00:12:59,749 --> 00:13:00,559 . Small happiness. 313 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,489 Then what's your favorite ice 314 00:13:01,494 --> 00:13:01,699 cream? 315 00:13:03,019 --> 00:13:05,449 Um, well, if I'm honest, it's coconut. 316 00:13:06,289 --> 00:13:07,549 I love coconut ice cream. 317 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:12,079 I'm really a big coconut fan, so it's also like I used to give the answer vanilla. 318 00:13:12,109 --> 00:13:17,149 My wife is like, You are so vanilla . I was like, Okay, I won't say that anymore. 319 00:13:17,479 --> 00:13:18,999 Coconut , you. 320 00:13:19,309 --> 00:13:20,989 There are vanilla contours out there. 321 00:13:21,409 --> 00:13:22,069 I love vanilla. 322 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:23,089 You get into the different types. 323 00:13:23,094 --> 00:13:23,239 Vanilla. 324 00:13:23,609 --> 00:13:26,149 Oh, Mel, vanilla bean, baby. 325 00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:27,199 Oh, 326 00:13:27,659 --> 00:13:28,079 yes. 327 00:13:29,029 --> 00:13:29,689 That's okay. 328 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:30,589 We're on the same page. 329 00:13:33,379 --> 00:13:35,719 . Actually, it's funny cuz my mom made coconut at cream pie last night. 330 00:13:36,109 --> 00:13:39,019 My mom lives with us and it, it very good. 331 00:13:39,409 --> 00:13:39,439 Okay, 332 00:13:39,439 --> 00:13:39,949 here's the deal. 333 00:13:39,949 --> 00:13:42,139 When I come down for the conference, I need some of that. 334 00:13:42,589 --> 00:13:42,919 Okay? 335 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:43,359 Okay. 336 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:45,229 You know what, I'll let her, I'll put in my order now. 337 00:13:48,019 --> 00:13:48,439 Yes. 338 00:13:48,444 --> 00:13:48,499 Yes. 339 00:13:48,499 --> 00:13:49,451 That's one of my favorites. 340 00:13:49,811 --> 00:13:49,901 Ok. 341 00:13:49,901 --> 00:13:50,171 Mom, 342 00:13:50,591 --> 00:13:53,209 anything coconut at you got me Mom loves to contribute however she can. 343 00:13:53,209 --> 00:13:54,209 So I, I. 344 00:13:55,309 --> 00:13:58,549 I'll pass that request on from scratch. 345 00:13:58,549 --> 00:13:59,539 Coconut cream pie, man. 346 00:13:59,719 --> 00:14:01,729 Oh yeah, you had me 347 00:14:01,729 --> 00:14:02,209 on coconut. 348 00:14:02,269 --> 00:14:02,629 It's all good. 349 00:14:04,219 --> 00:14:08,149 . So dy you model your life on what you call the five Fs. 350 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:09,799 Can you share what that is and why? 351 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:12,160 One, I love alliteration, right? 352 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,250 It helps us remember stuff also. 353 00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:18,829 It sounds kind of cool , you know, So I use the 5 F's cause also it. 354 00:14:19,579 --> 00:14:22,219 I know when it comes to teaching and understanding, 355 00:14:22,219 --> 00:14:23,569 we need little tricks, right? 356 00:14:23,569 --> 00:14:26,539 Those menno minute, you know the word, I can never spell it either. 357 00:14:27,589 --> 00:14:28,459 Thank you. 358 00:14:28,789 --> 00:14:29,359 Thank you. 359 00:14:29,383 --> 00:14:33,224 Like I said, English is hard so creating these ways that we can remember things 360 00:14:33,224 --> 00:14:36,014 and reference things, but also, cuz if you can remember it, we can apply 361 00:14:36,014 --> 00:14:41,434 it, and so these five is just a simple way of giving us some structure, but 362 00:14:41,464 --> 00:14:42,754 more importantly than just structure. 363 00:14:42,754 --> 00:14:43,444 It's also direct. 364 00:14:44,554 --> 00:14:48,094 Because through clarity we gain confidence and through confidence we 365 00:14:48,094 --> 00:14:50,726 tend to take more action, procrastinate less and then we also gain more 366 00:14:50,726 --> 00:14:52,706 clarity in the act of doing the action. 367 00:14:52,706 --> 00:14:54,566 So it, it's kind of ebb and flow. 368 00:14:54,566 --> 00:15:00,146 And so here's the five x fitness, faith, family, finances, and 369 00:15:00,146 --> 00:15:01,586 an overarching roof of fun. 370 00:15:02,636 --> 00:15:07,196 And why I say these words, because when I really surmise a lot of the things that 371 00:15:07,196 --> 00:15:10,226 are most important in my life, they can fit in any one of those five buckets. 372 00:15:11,771 --> 00:15:15,401 You held up a copy of my book earlier, my book I use at home, like a house analogy. 373 00:15:15,401 --> 00:15:17,935 So just entertain this idea for a second. 374 00:15:18,265 --> 00:15:22,315 I, if you are the architect of your own home and that home was a 375 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,454 representation or a metaphor for your life, Just think about the way that 376 00:15:26,454 --> 00:15:27,834 we used to draw houses as kids, right? 377 00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:28,739 Again, I'm not an artist. 378 00:15:28,739 --> 00:15:31,563 I'm not gonna draw some, Rembrandt or Michel, Anglo kind of thing. 379 00:15:31,563 --> 00:15:35,073 I'm, I'm like four, like it looks like a square with a little triangle on top. 380 00:15:35,283 --> 00:15:35,403 Stick. 381 00:15:36,093 --> 00:15:36,453 I get it. 382 00:15:36,753 --> 00:15:37,143 Thank you. 383 00:15:37,143 --> 00:15:37,443 Good. 384 00:15:37,510 --> 00:15:38,530 So we're on the same page here. 385 00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:42,790 So the four walls are each and f and then the roof is fun. 386 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,550 So fitness, faith, family, and finances. 387 00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:47,740 Now here's the thing, it's all on a foundation of. 388 00:15:49,675 --> 00:15:52,525 But I look at family, obviously that's relationships that we have. 389 00:15:52,525 --> 00:15:56,579 It's that level of connection that we have in our life, that, that sense of belonging 390 00:15:56,579 --> 00:16:00,269 in certain situations as well, like factoring community under there as well. 391 00:16:01,739 --> 00:16:03,569 Also, faith is our belief systems. 392 00:16:04,259 --> 00:16:08,742 What is it that we rely on that helps us navigate the down times, pulls us 393 00:16:08,742 --> 00:16:11,962 out, provides us with that hope, that sense of faith, that sense of being. 394 00:16:12,562 --> 00:16:16,378 And I'm not talking about just secular versions, but also non secular, cuz it's 395 00:16:16,378 --> 00:16:19,978 just our own personal beliefs and our relationship with this idea of how we're 396 00:16:19,978 --> 00:16:21,448 impacting the world and living within it. 397 00:16:21,478 --> 00:16:23,488 And that's what I classify under as faith. 398 00:16:24,478 --> 00:16:25,228 Finances. 399 00:16:25,258 --> 00:16:28,628 Listen, we live in a world where you gotta be fiduciary, responsible. 400 00:16:28,628 --> 00:16:31,593 We, it's not like we're, we live in a barter system as much as I wish we did. 401 00:16:31,593 --> 00:16:35,643 We live in a world where we do have economic constraints and. 402 00:16:36,288 --> 00:16:40,128 One thing that I see affects so many families and individuals 403 00:16:40,158 --> 00:16:41,598 is stress around money. 404 00:16:43,038 --> 00:16:46,308 And so if we can learn to be more financially responsible and understand 405 00:16:46,313 --> 00:16:50,178 that it can be a great vehicle to support us and help all the other walls 406 00:16:50,178 --> 00:16:54,261 as well as that foundation and roof, well, we should make it a priority. 407 00:16:54,861 --> 00:16:58,041 But it also under finances, the way that we earn an. 408 00:16:58,084 --> 00:16:59,684 How do we generate the money? 409 00:16:59,698 --> 00:17:01,433 And so that's also being factored in there. 410 00:17:02,003 --> 00:17:03,164 And then family faith. 411 00:17:03,194 --> 00:17:07,814 Oh, fitness, fitness is the one way to directly impact that foundation of health. 412 00:17:08,654 --> 00:17:11,774 And so when I say fitness, I'm talking about the actual activities to improve 413 00:17:11,774 --> 00:17:15,764 your health and wellbeing physically, emotionally, spiritually, psychologically, 414 00:17:16,424 --> 00:17:18,554 and all that comes into fitness. 415 00:17:18,584 --> 00:17:19,634 In fitness, what is fitness? 416 00:17:19,634 --> 00:17:22,514 It's like moving our body to create a certain physical response or an adapt. 417 00:17:23,924 --> 00:17:28,253 Well, Sam can apply to being fitness financially, or to be mentally fit. 418 00:17:28,733 --> 00:17:32,273 It's doing actual activities that builds our natural resiliency. 419 00:17:33,173 --> 00:17:36,023 And then lastly, the last step is the overarching roof of fun. 420 00:17:36,713 --> 00:17:37,403 Because you know what? 421 00:17:37,408 --> 00:17:40,213 If you're smiling every day, there's room for improvement. 422 00:17:40,763 --> 00:17:41,123 All right. 423 00:17:41,123 --> 00:17:44,822 That's bottom line, . And so that's my sort of my invitation 424 00:17:44,822 --> 00:17:46,652 to people is envision your house. 425 00:17:46,772 --> 00:17:48,632 What are your top values? 426 00:17:48,647 --> 00:17:52,847 And use that as the framework to envision, Okay, this is the life I'm building. 427 00:17:53,657 --> 00:17:57,857 I need to focus on my fitness wall right now because I think I got termites 428 00:17:58,397 --> 00:18:01,037 and if I tornado comes through, it's gonna knock that wall down and my 429 00:18:01,037 --> 00:18:02,447 house is not gonna look so good. 430 00:18:02,807 --> 00:18:04,007 So I need to reinforce that. 431 00:18:05,072 --> 00:18:07,112 Which also it has to be reinforced cuz of the foundation. 432 00:18:07,117 --> 00:18:08,912 So that's sort of how I play with that metaphor. 433 00:18:09,002 --> 00:18:12,662 It all opens up a lot of doors to better understand this relationship 434 00:18:12,667 --> 00:18:15,435 that we have with our values, but also what are we doing to reinforce 435 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,395 those and grow them and shift them. 436 00:18:17,395 --> 00:18:20,709 I guess I, I went into this because I want you to understand who Dai 437 00:18:20,714 --> 00:18:23,089 is and where he's coming for from. 438 00:18:23,089 --> 00:18:26,679 As we go into the next half of this conversation, you needed 439 00:18:26,679 --> 00:18:28,359 to have that foundation of who. 440 00:18:29,049 --> 00:18:31,059 Who's talking to you and where this is coming from. 441 00:18:31,419 --> 00:18:34,129 And for all of you guys listening on the podcast we've talked about 442 00:18:34,129 --> 00:18:37,589 it in passing the D'S book, the Whole Life Fitness Manifesto. 443 00:18:37,589 --> 00:18:40,510 If you're on the video version, you saw me hold it up, but it's the Diamond 444 00:18:40,510 --> 00:18:42,940 Wells Whole Life Fitness manifesto. 445 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:46,660 You will have links to that in the show notes and in the description 446 00:18:46,660 --> 00:18:49,630 below, you'll also be able to find out my website afterwards. 447 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:52,150 But I wanted you guys to know that's the book we're talking. 448 00:18:52,930 --> 00:18:54,400 I'm not gonna leave you in the dark. 449 00:18:54,610 --> 00:18:56,980 There will be a link to D's book so that way you guys can find 450 00:18:56,980 --> 00:18:58,240 it since we keep referencing it. 451 00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:02,110 But I wanted to know who he was and get into that. 452 00:19:02,110 --> 00:19:07,210 Before we step into the next piece of this conversation, so dive before we get 453 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:13,464 into the next part of this conversation, what are two books that just to you are 454 00:19:13,464 --> 00:19:14,814 life changing books that you need to read? 455 00:19:15,414 --> 00:19:15,744 Okay. 456 00:19:15,744 --> 00:19:17,625 The first one's the Big Leap by Gay Hendrick. 457 00:19:18,375 --> 00:19:21,600 And just a phenomenal I absolutely just love it. 458 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,956 It's all about limiting beliefs and he talks about glass ceilings that we 459 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:30,760 put over our heads, and just how this self-sabotage also shows up in our life. 460 00:19:31,450 --> 00:19:34,360 And cuz once you understand that framework and you can start to see how 461 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:38,110 it shows up, you can start to change it and make shifts and change it. 462 00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:39,650 So the big leap is one. 463 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,080 Second to that would be a book I referenced earlier, which is 464 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,120 Man's Search for Meaning by Dr. 465 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:44,660 Victor Frank. 466 00:19:46,145 --> 00:19:47,165 It's super impactful. 467 00:19:47,165 --> 00:19:49,835 You have to understand, just to give some context with people then, just 468 00:19:49,835 --> 00:19:53,124 cause I want you to understand the impact that this book has made on the world. 469 00:19:53,124 --> 00:19:56,268 But this doctor who was a psychologist and this is during 470 00:19:56,362 --> 00:19:58,652 pre World War II and he is German. 471 00:19:59,252 --> 00:20:01,075 But a Jewish, German individual. 472 00:20:01,075 --> 00:20:04,663 So him and his entire family living in Germany there and the Nazis, just 473 00:20:04,663 --> 00:20:09,073 awful, the persecution that they did, but his entire family and friends, 474 00:20:09,073 --> 00:20:12,943 his communities were all round up and sent to various concentration camps. 475 00:20:13,513 --> 00:20:15,403 He ended up being in three or four of them. 476 00:20:15,463 --> 00:20:19,555 He actually was in Auschwitz as well, but because of his phy being a physician 477 00:20:19,555 --> 00:20:23,065 background, they allowed him to stay on because he would then be working. 478 00:20:23,445 --> 00:20:26,955 Within the camp, which was also very challenging for him, but long 479 00:20:26,955 --> 00:20:30,495 and shorter, the first half is just re recounting those experiences. 480 00:20:30,765 --> 00:20:36,285 And, but as a psychologist being able to observe how people were acting, reacting, 481 00:20:36,975 --> 00:20:42,405 he was able to put it into a certain context that just is so, uh, you know, 482 00:20:42,555 --> 00:20:46,236 cuz if, I hope we never see anything like that again in the world, And it 483 00:20:46,236 --> 00:20:48,016 just, it shook me when I read that book. 484 00:20:48,736 --> 00:20:49,156 But here's the. 485 00:20:50,431 --> 00:20:51,361 In the second half. 486 00:20:51,721 --> 00:20:54,871 He takes a lot of what he unpacked as he ultimately, and it survived. 487 00:20:55,111 --> 00:20:56,371 He lost his entire family. 488 00:20:57,211 --> 00:21:01,921 If there's any reason to give up on life and that level of decimation in 489 00:21:01,921 --> 00:21:05,611 one's life, I mean, and yet to come out of it and still remain positive and be 490 00:21:05,616 --> 00:21:08,791 able to then take what he learned and apply it in a way to change the world. 491 00:21:08,851 --> 00:21:11,681 I mean, gosh, that is inspiring in my. 492 00:21:12,451 --> 00:21:13,291 The whole second half. 493 00:21:13,291 --> 00:21:17,371 He talks about this idea of aligning with purpose in our lives and really that idea 494 00:21:17,371 --> 00:21:20,731 of discovering the meaning for our lives, the why, if you will, in some cases. 495 00:21:20,772 --> 00:21:24,777 And outta that came an entire psychological system called Logotherapy. 496 00:21:24,802 --> 00:21:28,433 And so I know I've spoken quite a bit on this book, but I just, I got to give 497 00:21:28,438 --> 00:21:31,913 people some perspective and context on it cuz when you read it, it is just, wow. 498 00:21:32,233 --> 00:21:32,733 So, WOW! 499 00:21:33,403 --> 00:21:36,663 And so those you worlds though, those are the two that came to mind. 500 00:21:36,663 --> 00:21:39,690 Like it's, I think it should be required reading as far as I'm concerned. 501 00:21:39,708 --> 00:21:42,637 Especially just because, those, that level of just. 502 00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:45,482 Think what the Nazis did is just, un-called for. 503 00:21:45,482 --> 00:21:46,206 It's just absolutely. 504 00:21:46,282 --> 00:21:49,192 And I don't think we reference that enough, like mistakes happen. 505 00:21:49,192 --> 00:21:51,482 We, I mean, what's happening in the Ukraine right now is just awful, 506 00:21:51,482 --> 00:21:55,502 and I'm just amazed that we're as advanced as we are as a human species, 507 00:21:55,502 --> 00:21:57,214 yet we still have these tendencies. 508 00:21:57,229 --> 00:21:58,757 I'm just like, it blows my mind, blows my mind. 509 00:21:59,972 --> 00:22:00,272 Hey guys. 510 00:22:00,272 --> 00:22:02,492 We'll have leaks for those books as well because a good book 511 00:22:02,492 --> 00:22:03,632 really does change your life. 512 00:22:04,202 --> 00:22:07,622 We're huge advocates of reading and I love audio books and stuff. 513 00:22:08,462 --> 00:22:12,482 Me read even more , so we'll have links to those books as well 514 00:22:12,482 --> 00:22:13,712 in the show notes for you guys. 515 00:22:14,762 --> 00:22:17,364 If Dai says they're great books, guys they're probably fabulous 516 00:22:17,364 --> 00:22:19,704 books, so check those out. 517 00:22:20,004 --> 00:22:22,404 Now we're enroll to our sponsor and we'll be right back and we're 518 00:22:22,409 --> 00:22:26,154 gonna dig into vulnerability and change and how it can make. 519 00:22:27,324 --> 00:22:28,494 And to the best part of your life. 520 00:22:29,484 --> 00:22:30,904 So who we are back with more for Dai. 521 00:22:32,304 --> 00:22:37,854 I'm calling on all men right now to stand up and stand against this horrific crime. 522 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:42,144 It is estimated over 300,000 children are being sex trafficked in the 523 00:22:42,144 --> 00:22:44,274 United States alone every single day. 524 00:22:44,694 --> 00:22:46,134 I want you to get on your social media. 525 00:22:46,134 --> 00:22:50,274 I want you to follow savinginnocence.org or fightforme.net. 526 00:22:50,814 --> 00:22:52,704 Both these charities are working to. 527 00:22:53,964 --> 00:22:56,694 Child trafficking in the United States and abroad. 528 00:22:57,204 --> 00:23:03,084 You can donate at www.thefallibleman.com/shop and bu 529 00:23:03,084 --> 00:23:08,164 your en human trafficking merchandise and all proceeds will be given 530 00:23:08,164 --> 00:23:10,754 indefinitely to savinginnocence.org. 531 00:23:11,064 --> 00:23:15,834 You can also go to www.savinginnocence.org/donate 532 00:23:15,834 --> 00:23:17,364 and donate directly to saving. 533 00:23:18,699 --> 00:23:22,749 Men, it is time for us to fight and stop this horrible thing 534 00:23:22,749 --> 00:23:23,969 known as human trafficking. 535 00:23:24,459 --> 00:23:25,119 Guys, welcome back. 536 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,139 We're here with Dai Manuel discussing vulnerability and men and how to be a 537 00:23:29,139 --> 00:23:31,929 champion for change and not a victim, so you can live your best life. 538 00:23:32,229 --> 00:23:34,389 And I know that's a mouthful and lot to cover, but I promise 539 00:23:34,394 --> 00:23:35,499 we're gonna tie it all together. 540 00:23:35,849 --> 00:23:36,109 Dai. 541 00:23:36,134 --> 00:23:39,009 What purchase of a hundred dollars or less did you make in last year that's 542 00:23:39,289 --> 00:23:40,389 had the biggest impact on your life? 543 00:23:41,379 --> 00:23:42,639 That's a solid question. 544 00:23:44,439 --> 00:23:44,859 Hmm. 545 00:23:46,209 --> 00:23:46,719 Oh no. 546 00:23:46,719 --> 00:23:48,099 Cause it's a hundred dollars less. 547 00:23:48,309 --> 00:23:49,299 Well, let's see. 548 00:23:49,749 --> 00:23:50,979 Oh man, this is tough. 549 00:23:51,012 --> 00:23:51,934 I should know this. 550 00:23:52,144 --> 00:23:53,914 And I'm like, I don't know what I would say. 551 00:23:54,334 --> 00:23:57,930 Well, you know what I think if I actually look at my last 12 months, the thing 552 00:23:57,930 --> 00:24:00,660 that's made the biggest difference is my new pair of running shoes. 553 00:24:00,707 --> 00:24:05,022 I know it sounds funny, but when I get a new pair of shoes, I feel 554 00:24:05,022 --> 00:24:06,582 inspired and motivated to use them. 555 00:24:06,772 --> 00:24:07,382 Mm-hmm. 556 00:24:08,112 --> 00:24:09,762 and this last pair of shoes, I got it. 557 00:24:09,762 --> 00:24:10,542 It's just been great. 558 00:24:10,565 --> 00:24:11,588 I just found that with. 559 00:24:12,458 --> 00:24:15,218 Commitment to the shoes also got recommitted to me doing 560 00:24:15,218 --> 00:24:16,008 some things for my health. 561 00:24:16,038 --> 00:24:19,228 Got back into walking regularly, even to cycling regularly. 562 00:24:19,228 --> 00:24:22,560 They just, it's amazing how that one little thing affected my perspective on 563 00:24:22,565 --> 00:24:27,210 myself, but also my psychology around just getting back to prioritizing my health. 564 00:24:27,248 --> 00:24:30,041 To be fair, that is honestly, in the last 12 months, the one thing 565 00:24:30,041 --> 00:24:33,461 that I used like all the time, and it was under a hundred bucks. 566 00:24:33,611 --> 00:24:34,371 So there you. 567 00:24:34,371 --> 00:24:35,703 Sarah wants to know cuz she's a runner. 568 00:24:35,703 --> 00:24:36,592 So what kinda shoes? 569 00:24:36,594 --> 00:24:40,283 I should qualify when I say I'm a runner, I'm not I'm a Sprinter 570 00:24:42,143 --> 00:24:44,189 and they're Nikes Nike Freeze. 571 00:24:44,197 --> 00:24:46,886 So I, I like Flat Souls, like, zero point shoes. 572 00:24:46,891 --> 00:24:50,267 So there's no, they're, there's, you know, it's, you might as well 573 00:24:50,267 --> 00:24:51,767 be running almost bare feet, right? 574 00:24:51,797 --> 00:24:51,857 Yeah. 575 00:24:51,885 --> 00:24:53,557 I prefer that more natural feel. 576 00:24:53,626 --> 00:24:54,886 So yeah they've been really good. 577 00:24:54,976 --> 00:24:55,066 I. 578 00:24:55,996 --> 00:24:56,296 Okay. 579 00:24:56,626 --> 00:24:59,266 I actually was gonna guess that you were a sprinter more than a long distance runner. 580 00:24:59,536 --> 00:24:59,686 Yeah. 581 00:25:01,276 --> 00:25:03,346 . Ok, Wait my body tip. 582 00:25:03,346 --> 00:25:03,796 Give away 583 00:25:04,626 --> 00:25:09,878 it know since I've actually met you face to face and you shape 584 00:25:11,168 --> 00:25:12,698 reminded me much work I gotta do. 585 00:25:13,198 --> 00:25:17,798 I also know enough about exercise sciences like that. 586 00:25:17,798 --> 00:25:18,638 That's a sprinting body. 587 00:25:18,638 --> 00:25:20,638 That's not a, that, that's not a long distance 588 00:25:20,643 --> 00:25:20,828 runner. 589 00:25:21,128 --> 00:25:22,438 No, no. 590 00:25:22,448 --> 00:25:23,665 It's no distance here, man. 591 00:25:23,665 --> 00:25:26,156 I can do it if I have to, but I only do it on mud runs. 592 00:25:26,156 --> 00:25:27,006 That's the only I can do it. 593 00:25:27,016 --> 00:25:30,339 We could get into a whole nother ball on will wax on that one, but we'll 594 00:25:30,729 --> 00:25:32,049 say that for another conversation. 595 00:25:32,409 --> 00:25:32,779 Awesome. 596 00:25:32,783 --> 00:25:34,248 We can go down that rabbit hole for sure. 597 00:25:35,388 --> 00:25:38,268 When you speak about vulnerability, most men are automatically gonna 598 00:25:38,268 --> 00:25:40,328 recoil like a vampire in sunlight. 599 00:25:40,328 --> 00:25:44,318 We hear, we heard hear vulnerability men are like you, right? 600 00:25:44,348 --> 00:25:47,618 They're just now stick with us guys, okay? 601 00:25:47,738 --> 00:25:49,748 That's not where we're going. 602 00:25:50,258 --> 00:25:53,468 So let's define what you're suggesting here when you talk about 603 00:25:54,368 --> 00:25:55,464 learning to be vulnerable. 604 00:25:55,493 --> 00:25:58,101 Thanks and listen I get it guys. 605 00:25:58,161 --> 00:25:58,843 I was there. 606 00:25:58,893 --> 00:26:00,903 , you tell me the word vulnerable and vulnerability. 607 00:26:00,903 --> 00:26:01,603 I think weak. 608 00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:03,375 I think, No, you don't do that. 609 00:26:03,375 --> 00:26:04,365 You don't wanna be vulnerable. 610 00:26:04,365 --> 00:26:08,007 You wanna be impetu, rateable, you wanna be bulletproof and 611 00:26:08,627 --> 00:26:10,227 resilient to keep everything abey. 612 00:26:10,232 --> 00:26:10,617 Right? 613 00:26:10,671 --> 00:26:11,451 But here's the thing. 614 00:26:11,631 --> 00:26:13,971 If that's the perspective in that relationship you have with 615 00:26:13,971 --> 00:26:16,463 the idea of being vulnerable I just invite you to ask yourself. 616 00:26:18,263 --> 00:26:22,163 What brought about that belief system, that relationship to this understanding 617 00:26:22,223 --> 00:26:23,783 of what it means to be vulnerable. 618 00:26:24,353 --> 00:26:28,185 Because I think if you look and this is actually a testament to what we spoke 619 00:26:28,185 --> 00:26:32,265 about at the Phoenix Conference, Brent was, if you remember, there's only two 620 00:26:32,265 --> 00:26:35,625 way you know, the, the brain is not wired to be happy, but it is wired to 621 00:26:35,625 --> 00:26:40,205 learn and what's the most effective ways of learning, modeling, and me. 622 00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:43,680 And I still remember that was the most significant piece I took away 623 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,060 from the conference because it's true. 624 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:47,488 And being a fan of neuroscience I relate to that. 625 00:26:48,018 --> 00:26:52,608 And here's the thing, our entire life is a culmination of experiences 626 00:26:52,608 --> 00:26:54,841 and interactions and consumption. 627 00:26:54,852 --> 00:26:57,547 And it formulates this perspective that we have not only on ourselves 628 00:26:57,547 --> 00:27:00,127 in the world that we live in, and. 629 00:27:01,132 --> 00:27:03,862 There's probably something in there that created a negative 630 00:27:03,862 --> 00:27:05,932 idea of what vulnerable is. 631 00:27:06,112 --> 00:27:09,022 Maybe it's a poor first experience that we had where me, we went out on 632 00:27:09,022 --> 00:27:12,292 a limb, expressed how we were really feeling about something, and somebody 633 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:17,602 turned around and used it against us, made fun of us, degraded us. 634 00:27:18,532 --> 00:27:19,162 Fair enough. 635 00:27:19,432 --> 00:27:20,302 You have an experience like that. 636 00:27:20,302 --> 00:27:22,342 It's easy to say, I'm not gonna be vulnerable again. 637 00:27:23,032 --> 00:27:25,912 And then you get around a bunch of other guys that all have the same perspective. 638 00:27:26,242 --> 00:27:27,742 Of course, you just reinforce the. 639 00:27:28,927 --> 00:27:31,669 So we have to look at who are we modeling in our life and start to ask 640 00:27:31,739 --> 00:27:34,962 are those the best habits, and best belief systems, do they really serve me? 641 00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:38,982 I go back 13 years ago, the most significant change 642 00:27:38,982 --> 00:27:39,912 I've ever made in my life. 643 00:27:40,722 --> 00:27:43,730 And it all started and really I was only able to navigate it as 644 00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:46,880 well as I did because I was able to get vulnerable with my life. 645 00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:50,705 I was able to open up and, putting this, We'd already been 646 00:27:50,705 --> 00:27:51,815 together at 10 years at this. 647 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,190 And to be honest, I don't think I was ever truly vulnerable with her. 648 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:58,970 Allowed her to see me for who I really was and how scared I 649 00:27:58,970 --> 00:28:01,550 was and how depressed I was. 650 00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:04,220 Cause I was very good at putting on a show. 651 00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:07,820 I was very good living the Instagram filter. 652 00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:08,816 . Okay. 653 00:28:08,886 --> 00:28:09,756 I was just very good at that. 654 00:28:10,116 --> 00:28:14,526 I was an actor in a way, and yet when things came crashing down 655 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:17,346 and life became so unruly and my alcohol consumption got weird to. 656 00:28:17,380 --> 00:28:18,190 asked me a question. 657 00:28:18,195 --> 00:28:20,140 She said, Dai, are you being the type of man that you would 658 00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:21,490 want to marry your daughters? 659 00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:26,920 That question shifted everything because I realized in the 660 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,180 moment I couldn't defend myself. 661 00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:31,570 I had nothing to defend to justify the way I was. 662 00:28:32,290 --> 00:28:35,959 And that opened up this emptiness for me this pit, if you will. 663 00:28:37,129 --> 00:28:39,921 And I knew I had to cross that chasm to be able to start to 664 00:28:39,921 --> 00:28:42,531 heal, start to change, start to be more the man I always wanted to. 665 00:28:43,341 --> 00:28:48,441 And not this person that I was running away from and I needed to be able to 666 00:28:48,441 --> 00:28:51,741 open up and express that to my wife or else she wouldn't understand. 667 00:28:51,741 --> 00:28:52,791 She wouldn't be able to support me. 668 00:28:52,791 --> 00:28:55,461 And to be fair, I don't think we would've endured and stayed together 669 00:28:56,061 --> 00:28:57,111 cuz she was at her wits end. 670 00:28:58,791 --> 00:28:59,511 So I was vulnerable. 671 00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:02,201 I opened up about everything I let it all out. 672 00:29:03,401 --> 00:29:06,371 And it was incredible how cathartic that was. 673 00:29:06,371 --> 00:29:08,231 But also to see who in her eyes. 674 00:29:10,946 --> 00:29:15,476 She saw in me, me, and it was empathetic, but it was also loving 675 00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:19,046 and caring and saying, just with their eyes, it's gonna be okay. 676 00:29:19,076 --> 00:29:19,796 We got this. 677 00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:24,056 In that sense of emotion, 13 year journey I've been on ever since, and 678 00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:27,866 if we think about vulnerability as a skill, skill that can be developed, 679 00:29:29,036 --> 00:29:32,696 our relationship with the word becomes healthier, but the what it opens up 680 00:29:32,701 --> 00:29:37,428 for us up opens up for us as far as a life of possibility and opportunity. 681 00:29:38,148 --> 00:29:38,728 It's in. 682 00:29:38,751 --> 00:29:41,781 And so I, I invite people, if you want more on this, just my TEDx talk, I go 683 00:29:41,781 --> 00:29:44,422 into the glory details and all that story. 684 00:29:44,422 --> 00:29:47,822 But it was for me being able to open up with somebody and other people now 685 00:29:47,822 --> 00:29:53,672 other men in doing so, cuz someone's gotta go first, someone's gotta go first. 686 00:29:53,822 --> 00:29:56,792 But in going first, whoever that person might be, you are not gonna 687 00:29:56,792 --> 00:29:58,022 give permission to others to open up. 688 00:29:59,192 --> 00:30:01,052 And that is the beautiful thing about vulnerability. 689 00:30:01,052 --> 00:30:05,226 It takes someone to go first, but it can shift the mood and the tone for all 690 00:30:05,226 --> 00:30:06,546 your interactions with other people. 691 00:30:06,546 --> 00:30:08,136 But they have to, They have to see it. 692 00:30:08,166 --> 00:30:09,516 Cuz you have to realize they might be like us. 693 00:30:09,816 --> 00:30:13,086 Their circles of influence are really negative on vulnerability. 694 00:30:13,446 --> 00:30:16,176 That's why we clam up, we retract, we run away. 695 00:30:16,536 --> 00:30:18,516 We avoid dealing with that stuff. 696 00:30:19,746 --> 00:30:22,296 We only limit our potential and happiness, fulfillment, and 697 00:30:22,296 --> 00:30:23,706 joy in our life if we do so. 698 00:30:23,706 --> 00:30:24,666 So that's it. 699 00:30:24,666 --> 00:30:25,776 That's what I wanna say on vulnerability. 700 00:30:25,776 --> 00:30:28,506 I know we could talk about this for an hour or two hours or 10 701 00:30:28,506 --> 00:30:31,776 hours, or be like Brene Brown and make an entire business out of it. 702 00:30:32,106 --> 00:30:38,449 But all I can say is please just warm up to just having more conversations or 703 00:30:38,449 --> 00:30:40,009 maybe just experimenting a little bit. 704 00:30:40,009 --> 00:30:43,514 And Brent, I gotta commend you cuz you have a group, a community, 705 00:30:43,514 --> 00:30:45,104 a tribe if you will, that is. 706 00:30:46,124 --> 00:30:48,414 For men to practice these skills developments. 707 00:30:48,441 --> 00:30:51,651 Like you, you've created that and I've witnessed that at the Phoenix. 708 00:30:51,921 --> 00:30:54,351 Some of those conversations that happened in between speakers. 709 00:30:54,471 --> 00:30:55,101 Oh my gosh. 710 00:30:55,971 --> 00:31:01,101 Like life changing, but also wow, the depth of sharing some of those guys did. 711 00:31:01,671 --> 00:31:04,131 That only happened because we had other people willing to 712 00:31:04,131 --> 00:31:05,581 be vulnerable from the stage. 713 00:31:05,581 --> 00:31:08,653 You yourself opening up with some of your personal stories and 714 00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:13,293 overcoming big obstacles that allowed everybody else there to do the. 715 00:31:13,948 --> 00:31:16,648 Because you said it's safe, it's okay. 716 00:31:17,038 --> 00:31:19,318 And hey, we're all, we're all here together, you know? 717 00:31:19,438 --> 00:31:20,278 So, yeah. 718 00:31:20,368 --> 00:31:22,425 Anyways that's my bit on vulnerability for now. 719 00:31:23,055 --> 00:31:26,499 And guys, we're not suggesting you, you break down and sob 720 00:31:26,499 --> 00:31:28,869 uncontrollably and fall apart. 721 00:31:28,869 --> 00:31:33,159 Like some, That's not what we're talking about when he's talking 722 00:31:33,159 --> 00:31:34,629 about being vulnerable to his life. 723 00:31:35,229 --> 00:31:39,609 When he's talking about being vulnerable, other men, that's not what we're. 724 00:31:41,859 --> 00:31:45,489 We're talking about having honest conversations cuz none of us are perfect. 725 00:31:46,429 --> 00:31:47,949 Brent, You know, what's the craziest thing? 726 00:31:48,099 --> 00:31:51,874 When I started being vulnerable and I remember I was, we started 727 00:31:51,874 --> 00:31:54,244 facilitating these men's groups and we come together every Monday night 728 00:31:54,244 --> 00:31:55,564 to have dinner and conversation. 729 00:31:55,564 --> 00:31:58,008 And I remember when we started opening up and we started to 730 00:31:58,008 --> 00:31:59,358 implement the hand gestures. 731 00:32:00,198 --> 00:32:02,748 And one gesture we had is just guys putting up their hand like that or 732 00:32:02,753 --> 00:32:05,678 putting it on the table to just motion. 733 00:32:06,218 --> 00:32:07,748 That they get it, They empathize. 734 00:32:07,748 --> 00:32:12,728 But also I've been there and the coolest thing happens as the guy's opening up. 735 00:32:12,788 --> 00:32:15,638 All of a sudden I would see like five, six other guys put their hands on the 736 00:32:15,638 --> 00:32:20,040 table or put their hands up to communicate that I'm there too, or I've been there. 737 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,478 It's wonderful when we start to realize that man, all this suffering that I'm 738 00:32:23,478 --> 00:32:27,738 wallowing in believing that nobody gets me, no one will understand me, 739 00:32:27,738 --> 00:32:29,058 so I gotta keep it all bottled up. 740 00:32:29,718 --> 00:32:31,938 As soon as you open up, you start to realize a lot of the people around. 741 00:32:32,643 --> 00:32:36,393 You're dealing with this exact same stuff, . It's like all these smokes. 742 00:32:36,393 --> 00:32:39,121 If I only opened up about this like a long time ago I think I would've worked 743 00:32:39,121 --> 00:32:41,221 through it because we can do it together. 744 00:32:41,731 --> 00:32:44,071 As the African proverb goes, You wanna go far, go together, 745 00:32:44,071 --> 00:32:45,431 You wanna go faster, go along. 746 00:32:45,461 --> 00:32:46,451 But I don't know. 747 00:32:46,451 --> 00:32:47,351 I wanna go far, man. 748 00:32:47,651 --> 00:32:50,021 I wanna go far, guys. 749 00:32:50,231 --> 00:32:54,071 And today we're not gonna have time to dive into change because I think I, and 750 00:32:54,071 --> 00:32:56,381 I can go for a deep, long dive on this. 751 00:32:57,101 --> 00:33:01,541 So you guys who are listening, If you wanna hear Di and I go into just 752 00:33:01,541 --> 00:33:06,161 a deep dive on change and why is not bad and how you can champion that in 753 00:33:06,161 --> 00:33:09,491 your life info@thefallibleman.com. 754 00:33:09,791 --> 00:33:11,051 I'm at the fallible man.com. 755 00:33:11,351 --> 00:33:13,511 I'm at the fall, man, pretty much everywhere. 756 00:33:14,081 --> 00:33:18,521 Comment on the show, let me know and I will sync back up with 757 00:33:18,551 --> 00:33:22,901 I and we will take this into a part two specifically on change. 758 00:33:24,641 --> 00:33:28,481 Three steps that Maine can take right now, walking away from this conversation 759 00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:29,681 to start changing their lives. 760 00:33:29,739 --> 00:33:31,269 First of all, take control of your health. 761 00:33:32,169 --> 00:33:35,949 Recognize it's the foundation upon which everything is built, and all I invite 762 00:33:35,949 --> 00:33:39,729 you to do is take one or two actions that start to reinforce that foundation. 763 00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,479 The simplest two actions, I would say to start with, start consuming 764 00:33:43,479 --> 00:33:47,349 a lot more water, minimum three liters a day, and start walking 765 00:33:47,354 --> 00:33:48,849 every day for at least 30 to 45. 766 00:33:49,749 --> 00:33:50,169 That's it. 767 00:33:50,409 --> 00:33:51,879 Do those two things. 768 00:33:52,539 --> 00:33:56,139 Now, if you wanna add one more thing to us, cuz we said three things, Brent. 769 00:33:56,199 --> 00:33:57,159 So that would be number one. 770 00:33:57,219 --> 00:34:00,159 Number two would be start looking at what you're feeding your mind with. 771 00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:03,249 Are you listening to inspiring podcasts like this one? 772 00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:05,929 Or are you watching a lot of movies in sitcoms? 773 00:34:05,929 --> 00:34:06,559 I'm not judging. 774 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:07,609 I think there's a place for that. 775 00:34:07,609 --> 00:34:11,569 We all need a little bit of humor in our lives, but if that is all you're 776 00:34:11,569 --> 00:34:14,419 listening to, you gotta realize that influences your perspective. 777 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,119 Especially if you're someone that maybe watches a lot of the news. 778 00:34:17,124 --> 00:34:17,869 I mean, come. 779 00:34:18,604 --> 00:34:20,074 You can't help but look at the feeds. 780 00:34:20,074 --> 00:34:20,894 It's negative. 781 00:34:21,544 --> 00:34:24,544 How do you think you're gonna have an outlook on life that's positive of all 782 00:34:24,544 --> 00:34:26,734 you reinforce in your mind is negative? 783 00:34:27,214 --> 00:34:29,044 So start to look at what you're feeding your mind. 784 00:34:29,134 --> 00:34:32,494 Here's a little tip, if you wanna cascade things, you're going to listen 785 00:34:32,494 --> 00:34:35,194 to something inspiring while you're doing your walking and drinking your water. 786 00:34:35,314 --> 00:34:35,614 Okay? 787 00:34:36,694 --> 00:34:36,814 Amen. 788 00:34:36,814 --> 00:34:37,534 Number three, 789 00:34:37,774 --> 00:34:38,164 Sorry. 790 00:34:38,494 --> 00:34:39,215 Amen to that. 791 00:34:39,334 --> 00:34:39,814 Yeah, 792 00:34:39,814 --> 00:34:40,234 Yeah, right. 793 00:34:40,234 --> 00:34:40,624 It's easy. 794 00:34:40,624 --> 00:34:45,013 Yeah, we, there's not a matter of time, I can just do my audible . Me too. 795 00:34:45,073 --> 00:34:46,063 That's exactly what I do. 796 00:34:46,063 --> 00:34:46,647 And then number. 797 00:34:47,847 --> 00:34:48,117 All right. 798 00:34:48,117 --> 00:34:50,767 Number three, What would be the most impactful thing? 799 00:34:50,767 --> 00:34:54,259 I think it's finding a community to belong with, that really is critical in 800 00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:58,619 all of our development, but also in just in having quality of life is finding a 801 00:34:58,619 --> 00:35:01,919 community, not just to join, not like Face Group where I'm in a hundred groups. 802 00:35:02,189 --> 00:35:02,579 No. 803 00:35:03,179 --> 00:35:05,849 I want you to find a place that you are like, Man, I'm 804 00:35:05,849 --> 00:35:07,799 here and I feel like I belong. 805 00:35:08,864 --> 00:35:13,869 That sense of belonging is so powerful in our lives and grounding and also at 806 00:35:13,869 --> 00:35:15,219 the same time, inspiring and motivating. 807 00:35:15,909 --> 00:35:19,779 Find that, and if you can't find it, create it . So those would be 808 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:22,299 the three things I would recommend if you do those things first. 809 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:23,529 Holy smokes. 810 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:26,272 Watch out in a matter of days, you'll already notice the difference. 811 00:35:28,492 --> 00:35:29,512 Where's the best place people will? 812 00:35:31,137 --> 00:35:31,337 Anywhere? 813 00:35:31,342 --> 00:35:34,567 No, uh uh, Dai Manuel if you can spell my name, you can find me 814 00:35:34,567 --> 00:35:38,704 on any social platform or go to Daimanuel.com and just shoot me a note. 815 00:35:38,764 --> 00:35:41,866 Say, Hey, I heard you and Brent talking, and hey, this is how 816 00:35:41,866 --> 00:35:42,896 much water I drink in a day. 817 00:35:42,896 --> 00:35:44,230 And also I'm gonna throw this out there. 818 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:47,770 If you reach out to me and you talk ab you mention the, the conversation 819 00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:48,910 that Brent and I had today. 820 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:51,730 I will send you a free digital copy of my book. 821 00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:52,720 I can't send you a print. 822 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:56,538 One of my publisher wouldn't like that and my wife but I will 823 00:35:56,538 --> 00:35:58,068 send you a digital copy of it. 824 00:35:58,073 --> 00:36:00,138 Neat pub version or just a pdf. 825 00:36:00,138 --> 00:36:03,974 But so that's my invitation for someone to take action and get started. 826 00:36:04,274 --> 00:36:05,504 So, uh, take me up on it. 827 00:36:06,674 --> 00:36:07,034 All right, 828 00:36:07,634 --> 00:36:13,184 guys, like I said, if you want us to do a part two, focus on change, let us know. 829 00:36:13,724 --> 00:36:14,144 Sound. 830 00:36:15,059 --> 00:36:19,919 Whether you're a regular fan of Dai or you're a regular infallible nation, sound 831 00:36:19,919 --> 00:36:22,029 off, let us know and we'll make it happen. 832 00:36:22,029 --> 00:36:23,176 I love working with this guy. 833 00:36:23,176 --> 00:36:26,260 I can't wait to have him back for our second year of the 834 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:27,550 Phoenix coming up in February. 835 00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:31,000 And if you enjoyed this, come meet Dai in person in February 836 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:32,140 at the Phoenix Conference. 837 00:36:32,164 --> 00:36:35,523 Guys he's, he bounces around like a gazelle. 838 00:36:35,523 --> 00:36:40,046 Dude, I jealous of your energy during the conference, but I meet him. 839 00:36:40,051 --> 00:36:43,496 He's even more bubbly person and he's great hanging out. 840 00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:48,356 We have so much fun guys as always, be better tomorrow because we what you do 841 00:36:48,356 --> 00:36:50,066 today and we'll see on the next one. 842 00:36:50,936 --> 00:36:53,426 This has been the Fable Man Podcast. 843 00:36:54,026 --> 00:36:56,936 Your home for everything, man, husband, and. 844 00:36:58,196 --> 00:37:00,506 Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss a show. 845 00:37:01,376 --> 00:37:07,676 Head over to www.thefallibleman.com for more content and get 846 00:37:07,676 --> 00:37:09,176 your own Fallible man gear.