Men and Political Responsibility: Why Your Involvement is Key

David Dowlen: Here's the million dollar question. How do men like us reach our full potential and grow into the men? We dream of being all taking care of our responsibilities, working, being good husbands fathers, and still take care of ourselves. That's the question. And this podcast will help you with those answers.

[00:00:20] My name is Brett and welcome to the Falba man podcast from the fallible man podcast, your home for all things, man, husband, and father. And today, do we have a show for you guys? Normally I steer away some from some politics. So if you're sensitive, that thing listen up anyways, cause this is all about how you can make a huge difference in the world.

[00:00:37] Guys. I have my special guest today. Gene Valentino, he's going to join us. Gene has an incredible career that I'm gonna let you tell the him, tell you more about as we go forward in the show. But one of the things he likes to talk is politics as well. So gene, welcome to the fallible man podcast.

[00:00:53] Gene Valentino: Hey, thank you, Brent.

[00:00:55] Thanks for

[00:00:55] David Dowlen: having me, Jean. I was really excited when I was getting ready for the show. Cause I went to your website and you've got a beautiful website. I'll start with that. Cause I'm a little jealous now I got my game. That is a pretty beautiful website. And I went to your website and one of the first things I saw, I love this right here at the beginning is this lovely video from HomeFree of God, bless the USA, their cover on that.

[00:01:25] And I absolutely, I, Hey, I'm a HomeFree fan. I think they're tremendously talented, but I grew up listening to Lee Greenwood's God bless the USA.

[00:01:37] Gene Valentino: Yeah. Lee Greenwood is an absolute hero of mine. He is captured in the spirit of Americana and to me is the current generation of. A good Patriot is all about it's.

[00:01:48] So it's touching, it brings a tear to your eye. It reminds us about where we've come from and hopefully where we're going. It's probably something you're going to want to talk about today, but I'm very happy to be here with you. I'm down here in Pensacola, Florida. You're up in Washington state.

[00:02:05] Wow. Today's technology. We couldn't have done this a few years ago.

[00:02:09] David Dowlen: Isn't it amazing. I I'm kinda caught in the middle. I'm a tech guy in way, my nine to five jobs in the it industry as well as being a YouTuber. And I have a love, hate relationship because I love some of the things that technology has brought us.

[00:02:23] I also hate some of the things that technology has done to us as people.

[00:02:28] Gene Valentino: Yeah. It's a blessing. It's a curse. And it's part of how we morph into a new generation of lifestyle, which involves a new generation of technology. And a new culture, a new ethics, morals, and standards that we're going to have to adopt to make sure we don't abuse that new technology in the new environment.

[00:02:51] And that's more of the conversation we can have. Thank you for having

[00:02:54] David Dowlen: me. Nah I'm so glad to have you on here today. So before we get into it very far I ask all my guests to introduce themselves and my regular listeners know why, but if you're new to the show, I get to research all my guests before they ever come on.

[00:03:09] So I understand a lot about them, but I can read you all of their accolades and it really doesn't mean a whole lot. I'd rather have you hear it from my guests. So as a practice Gene, tell us who Gene Valentino is.

[00:03:23] Gene Valentino: Oh, golly. Oh, golly. The short version is the culmination of a lot of hard work resulting in the vessel of freedom.

[00:03:33] Behind me is a 35. Vessel of freedom, which represents to me the culmination of years of hard work. And I started off as a paper boy and I mowed lawns. I was the oldest of four kids. And at that time we weren't, we were for my family was not rich at all. And we, I contributed my paper, route money and my lawnmowing money to help fund help my mom and dad with the three siblings of mine that were younger than me.

[00:04:07] And jumping ahead, I ended up doing some work in New York as an actor to pay real quick money as an actor to TV commercials and things to put me through four years of college after college, I thought I was going down a path of journalism and realized real quick that. Journalism it was a high standard that had no regulatory authority around it to govern whether you were a good journalist or a bad journalist, all labeled under the guise of free speech and the right, right to self, a free expression.

[00:04:42] The first amendment I saw so much hypocrisy in terms of the way the journalists were conveying the news and the facts, to the American citizens. I remember Eric Severide. I remember Walter Cronkite the early days of broadcasting Del Sharvette, some of the old names and my father would know, but most people today wouldn't know that was a standard.

[00:05:06] I remember 60 minutes on Sunday evening when the family gathered around the TV to watch. The new, the weekend review and whatever the hot story was of the week, 60 minutes at the time morphed into something else over the decades. But to answer your questions, I graduated from university of Connecticut with a degree in business and a minor in journalism and realized TV.

[00:05:32] Wasn't really my thing at the time ended up getting involved in a few different business. We had a cellular telephone company. I won in a lottery called cellular one. The name's gone by the wayside in the process of mergers and acquisitions. Two decades ago the technology was Mo morphing nationwide, worldwide from analog data transmission to.

[00:05:56] Both in terms of data, audio, and video in all aspects. And then technology was growing with respect to the computer, the old computer from 20 years ago. It couldn't hold a candle to what you have is smaller than the size of a toaster today. The aircraft behind me has has equipment in it that is now available on commercial airlines, but 20 years ago, it wasn't available at all in this class of aircraft.

[00:06:26] So it's just the Genesis of how life's going on. And to continue. I was the county commissioner here in the Scandia county, Florida area for two terms, while owning a company that was like PayPal. We called ourselves collectors solutions, bad name, but we weren't a collection agency. We were the collector's solution.

[00:06:47] So for counties, tax collectors other governing authorities that had large billing centralized billing basis, we were the collector's solution for the payments made by you. The taxpayer knew the utility service provider a user. And so the company merged it in with a publicly traded company called the jet pay.

[00:07:10] And then we merged jet pay into a small company called national cash register of Corp NCR. And then I decided I'm going to take a powder and retire and get my vessel of freedoms. Kenny, Chesney's got a song entitled boats, I think, to the audience to listen to the song boats by Kenny Chesney and. In it, he talks about his vessel of freedom, his life journey.

[00:07:39] And he's finally went out and got the vessel of freedom. And behind me is my vessel of freedom when the show's over, we're going to get it. And my wife and I are going to get in that and take a little spin here along the Gulf coast to Florida. That's most of it,

[00:07:54] David Dowlen: I, let me say I'm envious after being a former resident of the Gulf coast.

[00:07:58] So we met through David Pasqulone, and I don't know what David told you, but I was actually stationed at Fort Walton beach. Yeah. So I'm very familiar with where you guys are at. I was looking at some pictures when I was talking to David before of him. I don't know if he was talking to you. He was talking with somebody smoking cigars on a beautiful patio, overlooking the golf.

[00:08:20] And I was so envious. I was like, that's how I want to do my show right there. That needs to be my studio.

[00:08:28] Gene Valentino: Brent, you have an open invitation to do a remote broadcast here in Pensacola, Florida. We'll puff a cigar together. Pretend we're important. Look out at the water

[00:08:41] David Dowlen: we want to talk about. I don't even care if I pretend I'm important.

[00:08:45] I just want to sit on a beautiful sunny Gulf coast and smoke a cigar, man. I love a good cigar. So I was looking at that, just going, ah, my backyard. Doesn't quite look like that. It just, it's not quite,

[00:08:58] Gene Valentino: you mentioned that I came down from Connecticut about 30 years ago, auditing the books of a contractor that was building that cellular operation.

[00:09:06] We talked about Califia. And I remember coming home one night on a stormy snowy night and landing and for free Connecticut plane almost crashed 45 50 minute drive home ended up being about three hours because of the snow. I get home at 11 o'clock at night, my wife's waiting up for me. We're having a very late dinner.

[00:09:26] The governor comes on the 11 o'clock news and announces the new state income tax. I slammed my hand down on the table. I said, that's it. I'm outta here. And my wife says, what are you doing? And leave at me. No, I'm not leaving. You're coming with me. Where are we going? This is place called Florida. We better check it out.

[00:09:44] That was 30 years ago.

[00:09:47] David Dowlen: My wife was really okay with the concept of, it took a couple of weeks for her to, we were engaged at the time I proposed to her actually in Fort worth in Destin, Florida. And it took a couple weeks because she's a Washington born and raised Washington girl. And it was so hot and humid, very different than the west part of.

[00:10:06] And after about two weeks of being there with me, she's okay, yeah. Now I can adjust to this. I'm good. We could get stationed here is fine. I was like, yeah, that's the way I feel. Didn't quite work out that way, but it is a beautiful, beautiful area guys. If you've never been along the panhandle of Florida on the Gulf coast there, the white sand beaches are amazing.

[00:10:27] The water is crystal blue. I have swam with wild dolphins, just swimming

[00:10:33] Gene Valentino: in the day. I take it for granted, but they're right out here. It's absolutely beautiful. It is America's best kept secret. In fact, this Gulf coast, from where you're talking over near Destin, back here towards the west, which is the last Whistlestop here, Pensacola before Alabama is America's best kept secret the sands, or we call it the last bit of Caribbean on American soil.

[00:10:58] They'll Sans are so well. Now we did have the BP oil crisis a decade ago. And boy, when that headed, it stains some of the beaches from new Orleans area and the clearance pushed all that oil stain toward toward Tampa, south Florida. And it's been a nightmare ever since in a sore spot with many of the folks around here, but it's recovered it's we nourished as somewhat and whatever is not, it's hidden under the new sands.

[00:11:29] So we don't see it. So out of sight, out of mind, but it's still there.

[00:11:34] David Dowlen: We camped in Foley, Alabama, and just man, that whole stretch is gorgeous. So Gene, I got to ask what's your favorite ice cream

[00:11:44] Gene Valentino: chocolate peppermint chip with chocolate

[00:11:47] David Dowlen: peppermint chick.

[00:11:50] Gene Valentino: What a surprise. It's a, I don't know what a Biden likes, but peppermint chip with chocolate works for me.

[00:11:57] David Dowlen: Oh, now Jean, we're definitely going to dig into me. I, my all is complicated, because there's commercially available and then there's privately made commercially available. Ben and Jerry's chunky monkey.

[00:12:15] Gene Valentino: Oh, I know of it. Yeah. Ice cream cheesecakes. I

[00:12:22] David Dowlen: liked them. But so like as sentimental for me growing up deer for like ice cream socials in the south where my parents were my whole family's texting except for me.

[00:12:32] And we were born and raised growing up in Southern churches with my dad being a minister. So we did a lot of ice cream socials. And my mom, my grandmother always made banana ice cream, homemade banana ice. So Ben and Jerry's made chunky monkey and made banana ice cream with chocolate and walnuts.

[00:12:48] And it was like UN

[00:12:52] Gene Valentino: that's. Wonderful. Yeah. Ice cream socials are, were always very popular in my high school years too. In fact, that's where I met my wife. She was an elementary school and high school with me. We didn't get married till 10 years after high school. And bumped into each other as a weird situation, 10 years after high school.

[00:13:13] And it was at a chamber of commerce function, which was an ice cream social. So it kind of said, oh boy, there's some Providence here, some providential things happening. Excellent.

[00:13:25] David Dowlen: So Jean, we're definitely going to touch on a couple of things. You said we'll get into the news media later. So looking over your accomplishments, cellular one, that, that was a huge, like I'm holding.

[00:13:35] And very familiar with cellular one. It was like, wow. The president at one point the cellular one, and you got into the online payment system when it was still very early on and help pioneer that technology. You've got a deep interest in personal flight aircraft looks like besides the one behind you, I was looking at your website and it looks like you are investing towards the companies that are making more personal aircraft, which is very cool technology.

[00:14:02] I would love to see that as get to that point. I have some concerns only because people are bad enough on the ground. I'm terrified what they can do without being stuck on the ground. The more idiots you put behind something, the more dangerous it becomes, right?

[00:14:17] Gene Valentino: Yes. You talked about the other technology.

[00:14:21] I didn't mention them is very jet. Very jet is a privately held company of about 25 30 investors. One of the founding investors serve on the board of directors and one of our board members is Charles Lindbergh's grandson. Eric Lindbergh, who's up in the Vancouver area. And we have seven board members now from around the world.

[00:14:45] And we talked earlier about how technology is forcing all sorts of changes will the old fashioned days of the airline system have changed as well. This is the toy behind me, but the Vera jet company I'm I'm on the board with is is the whole concept is short haul, basically less than 1200 miles.

[00:15:06] It's where the airlines start losing. These big metal buckets of gas, guzzling vehicles that are up there are burning and outrageous amount of carbon into the atmosphere. Along with the overhead expense of two pilots, the very jet system is a single pilot and a single engine. And the reason we get away with that is because we have a concept that the garment aircraft company garments, the manufacturer of the airplane they actually have what's called an auto land button.

[00:15:38] So if the pilot in the front seat drops dead, the passenger is trained prior to takeoff. They hit the button right in the ceiling and you don't want to accidentally hit. But when you hit that button in the ceiling, the plane then takes control of itself. Through an artificial intelligence system, identifies all the available airports starts to zigzag left and right around mountains and weather and picks the nearest safest airport to go to and safely lands the plane itself all the way through to touchdown.

[00:16:15] We are the first part, 1 35, the aircraft company to do this in the world as a commercial airline. And we're up to about 15, 18 aircraft. Now we plan to have over a hundred aircraft in our fleet in the next 24 months. And so look for it. It's very jet and the whole concept is geared towards Uber.

[00:16:38] Can you imagine chartering the aircraft like you're using Uber on your phone? That came to us eight to 10 years ago, became more popular, I should say, eight to 10 years ago. And the same concept applies here. These are technologies and innovations and disciplines that didn't exist. Brent, when you and I were probably a few years younger in high school and college, but the technology has more geometrically.

[00:17:10] Peter Diamandis has got a great book. It's entitled. The future is faster than you'd think. So if it took 10 years to go from one to 10 units, the next 10 years might be 10 to 70 units. The acceleration of things happening is happening so much, faster than ever before. And with it comes responsibilities the analogy on a different path.

[00:17:36] Social media and how that acceleration of availability and right. And the right to free speech has been either policed in a way that offends you and your right, my right to free speech or to the contrary. And it allows them free speech and it's quite offensive and both extremes are not acceptable. So in the speed of how we grow, including with aviation and technology there must be the right parameters or controls in place to make sure we don't overstep.

[00:18:13] David Dowlen: Now, that was actually a beautiful segue. Let me ask you, Jean. A lot of people are put off by talking about politics, right? Because it's surrounds our whole life used to, you heard about politics during the year, before an election cycle, and that election cycle was all of one year before the light.

[00:18:29] But that was still relatively short. Now you've got people campaigning three years before an election and it's in the news all the time. We can't get away from it, but it's become a more open. There's been goods and bads with that. It's become a more open conversation. More people are getting engaged in that conversation and paying attention to what's being said I actually am probably going to offend somebody.

[00:18:53] I'm sure listening, but I'm actually a big fan of mark congressmen Marjorie Taylor green, mainly because she's organized a group to call for a formal vote for every possible bill. There you go. Because I had no idea until I was watching an interview with her, that Congress was passing stuff with 30 or 40 people in the room by a show of hands left and right.

[00:19:17] And there's no official record. Yeah. There has to be a call for a formal vote. So she's actually organized a group of congressmen to take turns, sitting in the chamber, forcing a formal recorded, vote for everything, because she thinks that, Hey, congressmen should have to be accountable for what they're doing and to do that, you have to know what they're doing.

[00:19:40] So I'm a huge fan of that because I think there's a lot of responsibility with getting involved with stuff. What is it about politics that makes you actually enjoy talking about it?

[00:19:48] Gene Valentino: It's funny, you mentioned Marjorie Taylor green. I'm a real fan of hers and for the record we haven't coached each other before this show.

[00:19:58] I wasn't sure where it was going, but I want to thank you for bringing her up. It's the essence of what I've referred to as a democracy versus a democratic Republic and in a democratic Republic, we are relying on other people to make certain decisions for us. Because we're not there to make all those decisions or be knowledgeable about all those decisions every day.

[00:20:24] The technology's here where you could sit home on your channel changer and your clicker at night, I guess from six to seven o'clock and click yes or no on a bunch of stuff. And that's truly the vote of the people, isn't it. But we're down on an operating level of voting on everything every day.

[00:20:40] What makes Marjorie Taylor greens talking about is the intention of what she's talking about is to begin to hold the lawmakers responsible for the integrity of these legislative acts that are coming out. Nancy Pelosi talks about a bill with 2000, 3000 pages in it with a deadline for the next morning.

[00:21:05] That most, I don't know about you, but I can't read 2000 pages in 24 hours. I need a little extra time if I'm going to do it responsibly and then to pass judgment or adjudicate the merits of maybe two to three dozen key issues in that bill, that directly impact the citizens, you and me. Now that's not right.

[00:21:27] And that's a slaw in the system and Congresswoman green is on it. She nails it when she gets down that path and I commend her for it. Th it's a democratic Republic. A true democracy is where we're all directly involved demos of the people, the Greek phrase, it allows each of us to have a steak every day, you're doing the podcast, I'm flying my plane.

[00:21:51] We've got other things we'd like to do too. So we put people in and say, Hey, you make that decision for me. I'm going to vote for you to represent me at democratic Republic. And in that process, we find ourselves sometimes with a person who is not necessarily what elected officials do, does exactly what you want them to do.

[00:22:16] A hundred percent of the time. If you show me that person, you got something, I don't know. I got to learn from you, your odds of something. So what we do is we rely on people, hopefully that have trended in the direction we think, and that's what the best, that's the best we can hope for in a democracy today.

[00:22:36] I'm concerned about us losing any say at all today, we don't even have any input. Once they get through the gates of Congress, they seem to get absorbed in the cabal of their own world. That is devoid of the district they came from. I used to be a county commissioner. I can speak to this firsthand in my county.

[00:23:03] I had what was called precinct leader meetings and three, four times a week at six, seven in the morning before folks got off to. I had coffee with the commissioning. It'd be two to three people in a coffee shop. One day, the next day there'd be 35 to 50 people. The coffee shop owners loved us. We'd come in there and we drank a bunch of it, got to be a routine.

[00:23:27] People knew I can't make it that three o'clock commissioner meeting he's got going on working. So let me see him at seven in the morning and I'll get my 2 cents. And that was enough for most people. That was good because people had a direct contact with their elected officials. And boy, was it tough because I know firsthand that you couldn't make a hundred percent of the people happy a hundred percent of the time, but it was respected.

[00:23:52] And it was, well, I don't know if I liked that guy and what he's doing, but at least I can talk to him how many, you may know Congresswoman green, but how many how many people have that, that, that privileged the way. To be able to pick up the phone and talk to her. And how does she talk to a million people in our district?

[00:24:11] How do you make that kind of impact on somebody? So it gets difficult in the democratic Republic, but it's the best system on earth. It's the most accountable system on the earth. We're off a, we're a society of self-deprecation. We tend to chew up on each other and just watch the six o'clock news.

[00:24:32] But the fact of the matter is it's the best system out there because as bad as it is at times, we're still holding each other in balance. I think, I don't know, lately I'm scratching my head and saying, we've got to reassess if justice is applying to everybody fairly. So before I talk politics about an individual, I'm talking about a structure that has to be.

[00:25:00] Politically correct. And valid in its representation of the people. Okay.

[00:25:06] David Dowlen: Let me stop you there for just one second, clear up a few things for all of our listeners. So in the particular example, when he was talking about that two or 3000 page bill, we're talking about the recent on the most bill that the Democrats actually called, like a two o'clock vote on two o'clock in the morning to get it through a committee without any kind of,

[00:25:26] Without anybody pushing back on it.

[00:25:28] They called a private committee meeting to get it through the committee, without letting the other side of the house. The other side of the committee come in and oppose it. They did not announce it. They only put on their committee website and they literally pass this at two o'clock in the morning and then push it out to the full Congress at seven o'clock that morning and said, we're voting on this later.

[00:25:51] It is over a 2000 and close to 3000 page bill laced with all kinds of things. So that is that specific example for point of clarification. I don't know, Marjorie Taylor green. I saw a great interview with her on the Tim cast, IRL webs podcast. They do, I don't know if you're familiar with Tim pool's work.

[00:26:11] He is an independent journalist and they do excellent work. I've been very pleased if he gets a little dramatic every now and then, but he does a really good job. I think of trying to be as neutral and just report facts and news. That's what they know and leave. He's very clear if he states an opinion versus what he is factually stating and reporting.

[00:26:35] And they had Congressman green on for, I think, two or three interviews in a very short time period and let her. Share her piece. So I got to watch that interview and that's where I caught that information. I don't actually know her. I would love to meet the woman. I think she's doing a heck of a job, but I'm also wanted to touch on how many people anymore.

[00:26:58] Do not understand. We don't live in a democracy. That's right. This is such a common misconception. I hear this in the school system. I hear this just, water cooler talk. We don't live in a democracy. We live in a democratic Republic, right? Since its inception, since the beautiful date in history, the United States of America is a democratic Republic.

[00:27:29] And I think you're exactly right. There are several congressmen that I think are doing way better than other ones. But I don't, there's not a single one where I would say that they got, everything, right. It's the overall yeah, I didn't agree with this, but I think you're right on this, this and this, right.

[00:27:43] And that's the best you can hope for. Unfortunately, a private interest will always have bigger pockets to try and control the politicians, which honestly, I am all for. I have this radical idea. You would love this, check this out. This is my radical idea. I think congressmen should go back to the original concept of congressmen, where they meet.

[00:28:08] Obviously they can't meet for two weeks anymore. The country's gotten too big for that, but I think Congress ought to be a three month session and the congressmen are in their states working their businesses the rest of the time. And we pick them every year. Anybody who of eligible age, we pick them out of a hat or out of the machine.

[00:28:27] Kind of a lotto. So we don't know who's going to represent us. We pick them and we send our representatives to Washington for three months. We put on the, in the old thousand man dorms on an old base and let them live in the thousand man dorms at the chow hall without their normal technology for three months, while they are shuttled back and forth to Congress to do their job.

[00:28:54] And then they go home and that's it. But they get to live like our troops. Oh, I think that's so far past due. We're never going to get it because as long as congressmen can vote for their own, as long as they can separate themselves from us, but they can vote for their own raises. They can have their own separate insurance or everybody else.

[00:29:15] They have their own separate rules. I don't think Congress should be able to have rules that don't apply to the. Yeah, that

[00:29:23] Gene Valentino: problem is locally is a good example. As a county commissioner, I'm in a county of about 350,000 people. And when I was elected from one of the five districts I represented not only that district, but the whole 350,000 people, but the people the people, my point is, is that you had to represent the greater good of everybody, not just a select few.

[00:29:48] And that's where the problem occurred. And the folks who are my fellow commissioners wanted, they didn't want to touch term limits. I said, why not? I'm not this isn't a career for me. You're in here four years, eight years, maybe, but not 20. Because what you're doing is building your own nest egg. Guess what?

[00:30:12] We have also something in the county called the sunshine law in the state of Florida. So I am, I'll go to jail. If I'm sitting in the coffee shop with a fellow commissioner and I have a committee, a conversation that goes like this, Hey, Jim, I'll tell you what a Thursday nights county commission meeting.

[00:30:30] You give me a vote for yes. For the sidewalk and I'll support your road system. On the other end of town, that's called a breach of the sunshine law because I'm negotiating in private, on the greater good of the community. Now leapfrog ahead to the United States. Congress, have you not seen in the news lately?

[00:30:53] These congressmen and women that are out there investing in stocks, in businesses based on their. Decision in Congress that's just happened or about to happen. And then cuing someone in the family to go buy 50,000 or $50 million worth of that company's stock

[00:31:17] David Dowlen: right before.

[00:31:19] Gene Valentino: Look at who invested in pharma just before they put a law out that you could not Sue seek recourse against a pharmaceutical company based on the success or failure of the vaccine.

[00:31:39] Is that not a predisposition of establishing value? That benefits you personally? Of course it is. And it's wrong. And so with the United States Congress, there are several disciplines that need to be employed, imposed on Congress to more accurately effectively represent us term limits or no term limits.

[00:32:05] Can I suggest with you something else? The 28th amendment to the constitution? I brought it up with friends in the past. Okay. So the first 10 amendments is the bill of rights and the 17 that followed take you up to 27 amendments, but I propose a 28th amendment and I call it the citizenship amendment kind of ties into what you were talking about earlier.

[00:32:33] A city let's define what a citizen is to them. Now, when our forefathers who created this miraculous documents that survived longer than anywhere else in the world. I don't think they had the vision of people moving about in electronic vehicles that are run by batteries or Eva talls that are now like little carriages in the side, taking us from point a to point B.

[00:33:02] They didn't know what the craft was behind me and couldn't even envision it. Our founding fathers had a definition of what a citizen. I think we need to qualify it today. Let's define it again and make it more accurate. Let's define exactly what a citizen is. A natural citizen. If you're coming in from outside our borders, how do you become a citizen and what training and education is needed to truly be aware of who George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

[00:33:38] Madison and the hundreds of other Patriots that preceded us that protected this democracy that our children and grandchildren are. I'm not sure they're being taught. Oh my goodness. And what do we do at the border to create a wall before they come in so that you can come in equitably? My grandparents are Italian and they, my grandfather left the regime of Mussolini over in Italy.

[00:34:07] He couldn't get to America fast enough, but he did it legally. And when he came into the country, his attitude was to my father. Don't worry about teaching your grandson, me about Italian. He's an American. You make sure he's a proud Patriot. Well, son of a gun, that man was a purple heart recipient from world war II.

[00:34:32] W he received it posthumously years later in life after he had passed away. But he was so proud to be an American carrying the, he called it the baggage. I won't use that word. He said the baggage of all my Italian predecessors. I don't want to burden my grandson with that.

[00:34:53] I want to be an American and I want to be able to read and write as well as he does. The man could barely speak. He couldn't write English, but he could barely speak it and got through hard labors of life. It was his, her savings and his hard work that got me that airplane and shame on me. If I forget that I actually get a person to understand.

[00:35:22] Is to understand where they're coming from to understand this nation is to understand where it's coming, where it came from. And no one listening or watching should forget that. If we don't understand where we came from, then go pack your bags with some of those liberal folks in Hollywood and do what they didn't do and threatened to leave the country.

[00:35:47] Go get out of here, but this is America and you deserve it. If you're patriotic and do your part and stop milking us. I'm sorry, Brent, I got

[00:35:59] David Dowlen: off on a tangent. You're doing absolutely fine. Sorry. I said too much. Oh no, you did not. You're fine. Trust me. You are just saying out loud with some of us are a little hesitant to put out there just from getting banned from YouTube.

[00:36:12] Hey guys, if this one gets kicked off YouTube, I'm on rumble too. So, you know, it's there. It's going to be a, I'm sorry

[00:36:17] Gene Valentino: about that. I didn't meet. I'm not, that's. What we need Congress to do is to strengthen the laws on our media and social media to prevent what was just said from being kicked off,

[00:36:28] David Dowlen: anything to

[00:36:31] Gene Valentino: free speech and your right of free speech.

[00:36:34] David Dowlen: If that gets me, are just this video kicked off YouTube. That's fine. It'll be on my website. It will be on rumble. I'll go to places where they appreciate it because you don't got to gag yourself. I'm a hundred percent with you on this. And I think you're terrifying the correct about the fact that it's not being taught.

[00:36:52] In schools. I have some friends who are naturalized citizens. They worked very hard to legally become citizens of the United States and they love this country, but they have to learn more about our nation than we teach children in history

[00:37:06] Gene Valentino: anymore.

[00:37:07] David Dowlen: That's so true. They have a better understanding of our forefathers and where they came from.

[00:37:12] And what went into building this nation than children are being taught in public schools.

[00:37:17] Gene Valentino: Absolutely. Correct. My grandfather was so proud to learn about the American history to take night school, to speak English and become a contributor to society, not a taker from society. Hey, there was one other part of that 28th amendment.

[00:37:34] We talked about citizenship. The other half of it is once you become a citizen, you have the greatest privilege in the world, the right to vote that right to vote. And we talked about it earlier, but that right to vote. Has to be fair and balanced. The way you vote in Washington state has to be equal and proportionate to the way I vote here in Florida, it cannot be different.

[00:38:00] Now, I don't mind that other amendment to the constitution where it says the states will manage the voting process at the state level. I think that's proper, but it's gotta be equal the way we vote for a president and vice-president in, and the rules associated with that absentee ballots vote by mail.

[00:38:21] All this crazy stuff is causing so much disruption and the rules in Washington state versus Connecticut versus California and Florida are different. That's not fair to any. Who's putting his life on the line to run for the highest office in the land. There's got to be equity and balance. Sure. We have statehood and the rules do vary state to state, not to mention the taxes by the way but the vote though, if we all have one thing in common, we're all voting for a president.

[00:38:56] You vote for a different governor than me. You do vote for a different Congressman or woman than me city, council, county, commissioner, and so forth, but we have one thing in common. We all vote for the same president. Vice-president the rule. Applying to that vote should be the same nationwide and therefore the voting entitlement.

[00:39:21] And who votes in dozen votes is also what I propose in my draft of the 28th amendment to the constitution, which I have given to my local congressmen and us senators

[00:39:35] David Dowlen: and Jean. I've got a whole lot of listeners right now who are a little confused because this is not my normal show and they're going okay, Brent, we come here to grow as men and to change as men and develop ourselves.

[00:39:52] You're talking politics, which you usually try and stay away from on the mic now, personal life yet I talk politics nonstop, but I try and keep it off my channel most of the time, because it's a turnoff for a lot of people. So there's a lot of people who right now who are a little confused about why we're talking politics.

[00:40:07] And so guys, we're going to start getting into why specifically we're talking politics and why this matters to you, why you are critical. At this juncture. And why is critical for you to start talking politics? Whether you like him or not. So we've been spending some time getting to know Jean, but we're going to move into why men should get involved with local politics, if they want a better world for themselves, for their future generations, for their families and for society at large.

[00:40:40] So that's what we're going to move into with this guys. This is why we're talking politics. I wanted to get our feet wet. I wanted to get some time to get to know Jean and see where we're all at. In this part of the show. Guys, we're going to talk about why you need to get involved. It is so, so, so important for you as a man to get involved at this point.

[00:41:02] Now, Jean, we were talking a little bit, we touched on schools a little bit. We've talked on all kinds of things. We didn't even get off on inflation or Ukraine, Russia, or any of that yet. I think we're doing amazing, but. One of the things we touch on with schools. And I know like our local school system, I live in a very small community and our local school system is fighting.

[00:41:26] They're trying to get male volunteers to come into the schools, especially into the elementary age is and sit and read our help with study hall and stuff like that. To help add positive male influence role models for all the kids. Because there's such a lack of that. Even in our small community.

[00:41:47] Now we go from there and we look at that and I actually just found out I had talked to our school. We started homeschooling our children this year because Washington, the state has passed some educational laws for the entire state. For some things I just don't believe are the school's place to be teaching my children.

[00:42:05] Some of the sex ed and sexual health. I hate to use the term sexual health, because that is not accurately. What I would describe the material they're pushing out as, but it's my, my kids are young. I have a seven-year-old and a ten-year-old it's like a no stranger danger. Yeah, that's fine. Teaching my children about masturbation, not fine, this is not okay.

[00:42:27] This is not your place. And not something you need to be talking to my seven year old about ever. So we chose to move our kids out of school. And some people will have mixed opinions on that. Some people will be like, well, you can't change the system from outside the system. And other people will go. Yeah.

[00:42:45] But you gotta make that choice of, do you sacrifice your kids to save the system? There are a lot of things going on out that we actually were still on the school's mailing list. So we just saw a big release from the school board. And there are parents getting torked at the school board meetings because they were teaching critical race theory in our small little committee.

[00:43:05] After our teachers, like I, our principal at our school lied to our face last year. And so that was not part of the curriculum. No way shape or form. Yeah. And we had a pretty good relationship with this woman I'm I was appalled to find out that she was lying to us because we were very involved. My wife was the co-chair of the parent volunteer committee for the school used to PTA.

[00:43:30] And I live in a community where actually white is the minority. Our town is 87% Hispanic. And so my kids have friends of every color. They have Hispanic friends, they have black friends, they have white friends. My kids don't see race and this community, that's not something that's a big deal.

[00:43:49] We all live together. We have very this small community. And so to find out, that's been prevalent are showing up in our school system is horrifying. Absolutely horrifying to me. So you said you were county commissioner, right? Tell me, you, I love the fact that you were meeting in a coffee shop.

[00:44:10] That's amazing because I think local politicians should be available to their constituents as much as possible, but things like being involved with the school board and going to school board meetings. How important is that for men to get involved with

[00:44:27] Gene Valentino: it's important for parents to be involved in it, the notion that men have drifted away from some of their roles as a father, as a parent, a duty full parent is shameful where it exists in all venues, all types of social classes around our nation.

[00:44:49] It's absolutely in the wall that's put up early in life for a child to know his or her boundaries that can be most effectively taught by the parent. My dad has such a pervasive ability to create a good standard at home. Many problems exist in the family unit today because of the dysfunction from 30 to 50 years ago, I'll share with you something I'm a recovered alcoholic.

[00:45:24] I next year will be 20 years. I've been sober.

[00:45:27] David Dowlen: Congratulations.

[00:45:28] Gene Valentino: Thank you. And I think back to why I drank in the first place, I used it as liquid Novocaine too, because I didn't want to face up to. I didn't have the tools to face up to some of the problems that faced me before I point the finger at you and blame you for something I'm reminded.

[00:45:53] There's three, maybe four fingers pointing back at me. And so I better take my own inventory first and my own assessment. First on my strengths and my weaknesses and dad and mom in my life could have done a better job and helping me do that now, like a democracy we're filled with flaws, like the name, and this is what caught my eye and ear on your show.

[00:46:23] Brent, it's called the fallible man, the, we're all fallible. And so as our democracy, our number, because we're looking at the grassroots from the bottom of. We are all working hard to figure it out. And so now to your direct question, it applies in a narrow sense in education and the disciplines of our children over and the disciplines over our children, as it pertains to education, if we're going to rely, and this is not politics, now, politics to me is talking good or bad about the candidates and I'll stay off that subject.

[00:47:05] But the government that the politician works within is the political structure, which is fair game for all of us to discuss openly. And as men, we need to step up strap on a set of balls and be leaders and not acquiesce to the whims of unproven disciplines that have hurt other people over the generations.

[00:47:33] If we're going to be a democracy, we all have to share and give and take. So at that system now to be specific at that school board meeting you, Mr. Parent should have been aware of the fact that there was a curriculum committee and that you might want to get on that curriculum committee to share your good and bad points.

[00:47:57] Your points about what is acceptable curriculum and a teacher's discussion of trans-gender ism or homosexuality in the classroom is to me off limits the student having the ability to consider changing sexual desires before they even become teens is off limits. And the position of a parent to step in when a teacher calls him or her to correct any inconsistencies is not off limits, it should be protocol.

[00:48:40] And part of the curriculum, part of the school boards, parent teacher group, we need to get back to that. And if we, the parent don't like the way that student is being nurtured in the classroom, then that parent needs to take a tax credit and use that money or that allocation toward the tuition of a private school system, that he should have the right to put his son or daughter in.

[00:49:13] And that to me, Brent is how you neutralize some of the perversion Eric extremism, that's going on in our educated public educational system. Then not to mention the skyrocketing costs of teachers who are not even teaching. I hope I didn't get anybody mad, but I think,

[00:49:36] David Dowlen: I'm okay with stepping on toes in the show.

[00:49:37] I really am. It doesn't bother me by podcasts coming out actually tomorrow, as of this recording what will be tomorrow is of all guests. I had a vegan on, I had a elderly woman. She's a grandmother. She calls herself a granny vegan to talk to men about cleaning up their health and their nutrition.

[00:49:59] And I don't agree with a lot of what she said. I'm a meat guy, but. I sat there and we had a really respectful, great conversation about the pros and cons, because I think we've losing the art of having respectful congregate com congregations conversations. I don't have to agree 100% with everything you say, you don't have to agree with everything.

[00:50:22] I say, we can have a difference of opinion and still respect each other, treat each other with respect and we can still be friends. Yeah. I have friends that politically I differ with in a huge way. And in our house, we just, the two of us don't talk politics because that keeps our house civil when they're visiting.

[00:50:46] But, I still love that person just because we don't agree that didn't change anything. And that's a lost art. These days is real conversation and respect.

[00:50:58] Gene Valentino: Yeah, we take certain liberties with our families. Don't we? We think we can instead of being persuasive and articulate in the world and in the public setting, we ended up using our family as the punching bag to test our positions at times.

[00:51:15] And we shouldn't do that because it's hurtful. And I think I think in generally to your point, I couldn't agree more we, we need to be respected and the press needs to be respectful of opinions, right? I'm not supporting any news network right now. I'm not going there. So I won't get that political, but it's clear that if the press is owned by a select few that are controlling their messaging, that's not free speech.

[00:51:46] And we have to take, we, we, the parents of our children have to be sensitive now about what our children are seeing and what they're hearing, failure to defend the rights of other people may someday result in your rights, not being said my rights not being. So I've got it in one hand, I've got to give you the right to free speech.

[00:52:08] But in the other hand, I got to say, would you please use some common sense and balance it and temperate it just because I agree in one point does not mean I throw the other one out the window and that's where we're going today. And that's what spirit. Oh, he believes in he believes in economic development and he doesn't want to support the investment.

[00:52:32] He must be a Trump supporter. Would you stop it? This is it's ridiculous talk. And it sets up a wall of one person against the other. America was founded on the principles of constructive discourse and commentary and differences of opinions. Remember the old days, remember my, I talked about my coffee shops in the morning.

[00:52:57] That's how our government started. They had meetings in the halls of churches down at the local restaurants. That's where they gathered after hours after work to share opinions. But now you got Congress doing side deals. You've got individuals doing side deals with China and Ukraine at the expense of you and me.

[00:53:21] And of I'm wondering if our national security is protected. When you have government officials, self indulging to their personal benefit at your expense in mind, that's where we're crossing the line. Now,

[00:53:37] David Dowlen: Jean, I got to ask, most people are not familiar. We understand there's a president and a Congress.

[00:53:43] And the lack of understanding of how our government works is a whole nother by the general generalized populous is a whole longer conversation because that's not being taught in school either. However, most people really have no idea how their local government and local setup works. What is the best way for men to start getting involved with their local government, their local politics around their communities?

[00:54:13] Gene Valentino: I think you eat the elephant one bite at a time is probably the best question. Brent you've asked me to. All politics, all governments started local. So learn your community, give back to your community, give back to your community in the church setting and be part of the church activity. But then in the same breath, get into the government, get into the local operation of your local government and become a contributor.

[00:54:41] Maybe it's a city Councilman or council, woman. Maybe it's the mayor. Maybe it's the board of ed. As you mentioned earlier, I don't like what's being taught to my children will run for office, dammit, get on the board of education. And maybe you want to look at things more regionally that involves wetlands and environmental and habitat national defense economic development on a broader base basis.

[00:55:08] I think you might want to talk about the United States Congress and understand the difference between government at the federal level, which starts at Congress. The president and then the judiciary the three legs of the federal government, or you don't it's overreaching. Maybe you want to start at the state level where you have usually house of representatives or state senators, not to be confused with us senators.

[00:55:33] And if that's too far reaching start locally. As I first mentioned with local city representation, they call them city councilmen city selectman local representatives in your own city. Some states. Our more county-based government and other states are more city-based government, Connecticut. For example, the counties have no meaning.

[00:55:55] They're just marks on a map. But there's 169 cities and towns in the state of Connecticut. Just as an example, government is based at the city and township level. And by the way, the taxes are high because they handled their educational system at the city and town level. On the other hand, as you know, the county assumes the role of education.

[00:56:18] You have school districts within the county in certain areas of the nation. And so the tax base comes out of eight out of a, the training at the county tax basis. As opposed to the local level. And now just imagine you're paying those taxes and you don't like the educational system. So you put your child into a local system into a private school, which runs you between 20 and $60,000 more a year.

[00:56:46] And they're not even, and they haven't even reached college yet. Is that where we're heading? Talk about double taxation. That's an issue for a good person to start with. If you follow what you just mentioned, just focus on the educational system, get into it and make sure before I decided to put my son or daughter in private school, maybe I can fix the public school system, which I'm paying into right now with my taxes.

[00:57:13] There's the challenge. There's the dynamic and, FA our democracy has always been based on a tension. It has a tension built into its operation. It's intended that we stress. It's got stress points for us to challenge each other every day. That's what makes it so unique. Autocratic, socialistic, Marxist, communist countries, and governments don't have that problem.

[00:57:42] If some guy at the top telling you the way it's going to be, and you don't have any say at all, if you and I want to retain control and have some say, then me, the dads are fallible. Dads are, our sinners are weak. People who have made mistakes in our life have to step up and contribute because that's what the democratic Republic implies in the governing documents of its operation.

[00:58:12] David Dowlen: It's interesting. You're mentioning taxes and education. That's actually been a discussion with my wife and I recently it's well, we're still paying taxes into the county and the state for education for a system that we decided was failing our children. While we were homeschooling my children, my wife actually had to scale back.

[00:58:27] She does bookkeeping on the side and she had to scale back when the dreaded Rona hit. I can't say that too loud on YouTube, or they'll take the video down when that hit. And they sent all the kids home. My wife was actually in the process of expanding her business and had to pull that back to be home with our children during the school day.

[00:58:47] So she had to scale that down. So we took a loss there. To be home with them. And then we went ahead and decided after this on again, off again, part days making our children, Matt, March around with a mask on that, it's like, Nope we're just going to, they're not actually teaching them. My oldest daughter is both.

[00:59:07] My kids are really smart, but my oldest daughter has been in advanced classes since kindergarten because she just, she learns very quickly and she gets bored very easily. That's how I used to get in trouble with school. It wasn't that I couldn't do the schoolwork. It was boring to me cause it was way below me.

[00:59:23] And so I was like my wife and I looked at it and went, look, she's going to be just like you and ended up getting in trouble cause she can get bored real quick. So we're much happier with the education they're getting at the moment. But we're looking at as like, wow, we're still paying taxes at the state and county level.

[00:59:41] Gene Valentino: Yes. What credit did you get back on your taxes for having this expend effort, time and money on your own children? Yeah, it's where I'm going. So if we want to address education in the, that our founding fathers that created this democracy and this document, I'm certain did not have homeschooling in mind in the creation of this document.

[01:00:02] We created a government structure with all sorts of bureaucratic tentacles in it. And there's now got to be the best government is the government that governs less government and the governance best. And so individuals stepping up in our democracy must step up and do what you were doing. If you go to home school, the kids as Marjorie Taylor green, if there's an amendment, if there's a statute she can bring forward and I'll do the same with my Congressman to give credit to the citizens who are paying out of pocket.

[01:00:36] For the constructive quality education of their own children. There's got to be a credit applied.

[01:00:43] David Dowlen: I know some states actually have that. Where if you are putting your kids in a private school or a homeschool environment, there are states that have that my state does not, unfortunately marginally Taylor green is I think Georgia.

[01:00:56] I'm pretty our congressmen suck. Let me say that really loud. All the Washington state, anybody who doesn't live in Seattle. Thanks. Most of our Congress people suck.

[01:01:07] Gene Valentino: Yeah. There's a process. We have to talk about that maybe some other time, but it's called the election process. And as long as we believe the election process is still credible and accurate, then we can exercise that opinion.

[01:01:23] And make the changes necessary in November. One would argue though, I hate to wait so long.

[01:01:28] David Dowlen: I don't think our electrodes are credible in the state of Washington. Like a lot of states have run into, there is a cultural phenomenon that tends to happen, and that is all the liberals flock to citizen centers.

[01:01:43] And I hate using the term left or liberal because it doesn't accurately define anything anymore. Just like conservative, doesn't accurately define any groups. But the more liberal democratic leaning people tend to flock towards city centers. And so in Washington state three counties control the entire state outcome period.

[01:02:05] Hmm. It's literally Snohomish king and Pierce county control the entire election cycle. It doesn't matter. In fact, if you look at our most recent governor, Alexa, four counties voted our governor in the rest of the state, voted for the other guy.

[01:02:23] Gene Valentino: And it was that truly, there's a term in politics called code tournaments.

[01:02:28] It comes from the root. That means one man, one vote it implies that the way the votes are balanced through through, through the electoral college process is balanced and fair king county. I think that Seattle, if I remember the, and so that would be there is that where the weight of the population is.

[01:02:48] David Dowlen: It is those three counties are the weight of the population for the state. They're also a very small portion of the state of Walsh.

[01:02:55] Gene Valentino: Right. Yeah. So in your election process for the president, they like Toro college weighs the number of of candidates coming out of those three counties.

[01:03:07] And so it, it means that even though you have more square miles, you have less voters.

[01:03:12] David Dowlen: And that's happening, I think. And every major state, I know my brother lives in Colorado. That's an issue down there in Washington. It's those three counties. And occasionally there's a Spokane is on the far side of the state from Seattle.

[01:03:27] It goes back and forth as to how it votes. And then there's the Tri-Cities in the south. But those three counties, Pierce, Snohomish, and king it, the rest of the state can vote. There is so much population and that section of the state that it just wipes the state. Interesting. I know Oregon's the same way.

[01:03:48] 80% of the state of Oregon wants to separate from the north west portion of the state where Portland is there. They've been trying for years to actually separate off, become a separate state because Portland decides the entire vote. So Gene,

[01:04:08] Gene Valentino: In an earlier point in time, there was a Confederacy of the whole south of the United States that wanted to do the same and through a lot of back and forth let's put aside our differences and try to find out what we can do in common.

[01:04:23] If you want me, since you're the way, the only way you're going to make me happy is I'm Rhode Island population, less than 2 million people, 3 million people, you got two United States senators. Florida 30 million people, two United States, senators, Washington state. How many people, two United States senators the same.

[01:04:45] There has to be some sort of give and take to hold that democracy together because of the propensity of interests aligning sometimes in a direction you and I don't like

[01:04:58] David Dowlen: head scratchers. I suggested to some colleagues of mine one day when we were discussing politics that we should put together an electoral college for the state of Washington.

[01:05:09] And every county should have two votes period, regardless of population. Because those of us who don't want to live in the city, shouldn't be penalized because we like to have some land or not live in the middle of the city. I get it. I have friends who are city people, and they love living in cities.

[01:05:27] That's hell on earth to me.

[01:05:28] Gene Valentino: What's scary is because of the technology being what it is today. Brett, the vote electronically can happen quickly. I'm not in favor of mail in ballots and all, but the fraud associated with that. But then the electronic voting process with, if we're doing it with payments online, two step authentication, cryptic cryptically protected processes when we're spending money, we can, if we can do it for money, why can't we do it for a vote?

[01:06:00] You'd think if we do just that, that means that your vote being out in the country with 50 square miles before you see the next neighbor is just as important as the guy in Seattle, it's imbalanced, it's imperative. And that it's the one man, one vote. And it can be done if addressed through my 28th amendment and voting on the protection of the vote.

[01:06:24] And that was so I'm sorry to steer it back. Citizenship here, voting rights here. It can be done electronically to address it in the current era, but you got to keep sticky hands out of the middle of it.

[01:06:40] David Dowlen: Jean, what is the one thing you want our listeners to take away from this conversation?

[01:06:47] Gene Valentino: America is the best invention any forefathers have ever come up with.

[01:06:56] There's a lot of reason to feel frustrated right now, but that has more to do with bad behavior of individuals than it does the intention of the democratic process, the Democrat, the democratic structure. And it starts with the notion that if we fail to defend the rights of other people. Some day, your rights.

[01:07:17] And my rights may not be descended. That would be my parting thought bread. And that we put down our anger and resentments and reach out harder and look for what we have in common, not what divides us for what we have in common. There's a God upstairs, who I think is watching over us, who is ultimately going to drive this ship.

[01:07:41] But until I get face-to-face with him someday I'd like to believe that what we can do together was given to us by him. And that we're smart enough to know the difference and work well together to promote our democracy that binds us and put aside that, which divides us.

[01:08:00] David Dowlen: Yeah. Jean, you have this lovely website that we had up earlier and I'll put it back.

[01:08:05] Jeanne valentino.com. Is this the best place to connect with you to find out more about what you're talking about, what's going on and get some more of your insights. That would

[01:08:14] Gene Valentino: be wonderful. Thank you for putting that up. www.genevalentino.com. It was put together by the gentlemen who introduced Neil and me, David Pasqulone owner of, and founder of his own remarkable people, podcasts.

[01:08:29] And it was through David, both of us met. And for that I'm most grateful. And I want to thank David as well for this. So remarkable people podcasts and gets you to Brent Dowlen. And by the way, I got to say, talk about what divides us, where we have in common. You know, I'm losing here in the center, you're growing here in the center.

[01:08:48] How is it? You got something going down the middle. And I got a, I got something here I'm trying to cover.

[01:08:54] David Dowlen: I actually get teased a lot by guys who. Our bald, not entirely by choice. They'd rather be bald than thinning. I have some friends give me a hard time. They were like, wait a minute, you shave that off.

[01:09:06] Why do you I'm working on keeping this well, I'm blessed with hair. My children actually pick up this hairstyle.

[01:09:12] Gene Valentino: I want to become part of the Dowlen tribe.

[01:09:17] David Dowlen: I can definitely be a thing. We're definitely gonna have to keep in touch gene other than your website. What I know you already told me, right?

[01:09:24] The next stop is you're going to get off this podcast and you're going to go fly in your plane. What's next for Gene Valentino?

[01:09:30] Gene Valentino: I'd like to continue serving my community. So the what's left in my years. I'm 68 years of age and I'd like to I'd like to serve my community. I don't know how that reveals itself, but today I'd like to just continue to identify the good thing.

[01:09:46] Things in people contribute to the committee. And point out the wrongdoers and that's what I do on genevalentino.com. We have a a David Pasqulone. My producer has helped me produce the grassroots truth gas. That's part of in the news on our website and the grassroots truth. Casts has a 15 minute radio podcast every Friday morning at seven 15, am.

[01:10:11] We do it for 15 minutes and then it's posted to the website and it's there for your viewing. So like your scroll, different interviews, Brent mine on there as

[01:10:20] David Dowlen: well. Excellent. Excellent. We will put links guys to all of Gene's connections in the show notes and the description of the video. If you're watching on YouTube guys, we will make sure that you can find Gene, thank you for taking the time to be with us today and share some wisdom and knowledge.

[01:10:38] Guys as always be better tomorrow because what you do today and we'll see you on the next one.

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